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on โ13-02-2015 08:06 AM
Just heard on the radio that soon teachers will be required to pass literacy test before allowed to graduate; call me naive, but I would expect them to have to be literate before they can even start such a course. What is a point letting them do the course if they are not literate?
Voltaire: โThose Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocitiesโ .
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on โ13-02-2015 09:23 PM
Money does seem to have trumped being able to speak and be understood in English.
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on โ13-02-2015 10:19 PM
The problem with proofreading is that very often you read what you expect to be there rather than what is really there. In my book the Devil's Own there was a line which was supposed to read "He turned to face (the island called) Batavia's Graveyard and raised one clenched fist in a grim salute." The manuscript went through editing, copy editing and typesetting. After the typesetting my editor proofread it, I proofread it and I got a friend to proofread it. Despite all that, what eventually appeared in the book was "He turned to face Batavia's Graveyard and raised one clenched fish in a grim salute."
I like to show this to kids when I do workshops or author talks to emphasise how important careful proofreading is, and you would be surprised how many of them have read the book themselves or even had it read aloud to them in class and no-one - including the teacher - has ever noticed it.
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on โ13-02-2015 10:27 PM
That's hilarious!
Obviously it wouldn't work on a whole manuscript, but I used the reading it backwards method when what I wrote was important. I found it allowed me to focus on each word rather than the whole sentence.
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on โ14-02-2015 09:00 AM
@polksaladallie wrote:Not true. It will be a comprehensive overview of all teacher education, with specific concentration on the practice part of courses. The consensus seems to be that graduating teachers are proficient in theory, but some are lacking in skills in the practice areas.
Actually it is true. Yes, they also will do the above, but as from 2016 teachers will face numeracy and literacy exam when they graduate. As far as I am concerned people should not graduate from primary school without being literate and numerate. But what a waste of money to allow person to go through the course, and only then decide that they are not to graduate because of their poor level of numeracy and literacy.
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on โ14-02-2015 09:06 AM
It is not only some teachers who can't spell. I have read many hospital charts and was appalled at some of the spelling errors. From younger doctors and nurses. One wonders whether any of their errors result in mistakes with patients.
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on โ14-02-2015 09:19 AM
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@polksaladallie wrote:Not true. It will be a comprehensive overview of all teacher education, with specific concentration on the practice part of courses. The consensus seems to be that graduating teachers are proficient in theory, but some are lacking in skills in the practice areas.
Actually it is true. Yes, they also will do the above, but as from 2016 teachers will face numeracy and literacy exam when they graduate. As far as I am concerned people should not graduate from primary school without being literate and numerate. But what a waste of money to allow person to go through the course, and only then decide that they are not to graduate because of their poor level of numeracy and literacy.
I think these changes would bring the overseas-trained teachers, who "top-up" their qualifications, to meet our Standards.
DEB
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on โ14-02-2015 10:08 AM
@polksaladallie wrote:It is not only some teachers who can't spell. I have read many hospital charts and was appalled at some of the spelling errors. From younger doctors and nurses. One wonders whether any of their errors result in mistakes with patients.
A horrifying percentage of the general population cannot spell.
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on โ14-02-2015 07:57 PM
@donnashuggy wrote:
My children have often complained that they don't understand their teachers, specifically those born overseas. It can really impact their learning. I do think this needs to be addressed.
I thought those with heavy accents were employed by CityRail as train guards. Our hospitals are full of hard to understand nurses but I've been told that as long as they're clinically sound it's OK. So the link between a doctor and a patient is a nurse who struggles with English. What a wonderful system.


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