on โ29-07-2019 11:18 AM
Are sellers permitted to apply any delivery cost to items?
Are massive delivery cost outside the ebay guidelines or is it simply a buyer beware situation?
Steve c
on โ29-07-2019 05:45 PM
Just by the $1 fuse and move on and don't let it do your head in lol.
When ever I see any listings that are over the top I just move on otherwise it'll do my head in lol.
โ29-07-2019 05:48 PM - edited โ29-07-2019 05:48 PM
@sjchaps wrote:The fuse in question is 30mm long and 6mm in diameter and would easily fit into a standard envelope with bouble wrap.
By the way the same fuse is $1.00 at the 12 volt shop.
Steve c
And get something dropped on it somewhere along the very long line. Bubblewrap is not a panacea, and the amount of bubblewrap you could use in an envelope would not afford much protection.
As you've already solved the problem, I'm not sure what your issue is.
on โ29-07-2019 05:51 PM
"Better to ask first then shoot"
Good advice so I messaged the seller and asked....If they do respond I will post it on here.
Steve c
on โ29-07-2019 06:05 PM
@davewil1964 wrote:
@sjchaps wrote:The fuse in question is 30mm long and 6mm in diameter and would easily fit into a standard envelope with bouble wrap.
By the way the same fuse is $1.00 at the 12 volt shop.
Steve c
And get something dropped on it somewhere along the very long line. Bubblewrap is not a panacea, and the amount of bubblewrap you could use in an envelope would not afford much protection.
As you've already solved the problem, I'm not sure what your issue is.
I checked it out when someone wanted me to post some stamps in an envelope with bubblewrap, and it actually reduces the integrity of the envelope.
on โ29-07-2019 06:08 PM
@sjchaps wrote:Thanks for your comments.
Here a bit more info on this one.
As advertised a glass fuse 12V 150mA price $10.04 Delivery from the US to Australia $459.88.
At first my thought was it has to be a typo so should I contact the seller to let him know?
A quick search of the store showed 5 to 10% of the hundreds of articles had similar delivery costs, massive.
I'm aware sellers delivery charges are now part of the calculation for ebay charges but the outcome of that change means when someone does make the mistake of not checking the delivery costs E bay gets a 10% cut.
Add to that in this case when your $469.92 fuse arrives in Australia it draws 10% GTS.
Preferred payment method was Paypal, I wonder why???
Where is the incentive for ebay to stop this deceptive behaviour?
Am I right in thinking because you it does not actually break the Ebay rules a buyer can not actually complain or attempt to prevent this happening to someone else?
That's certainly the way it appears to me after looking through the "Report Listing", there's no way to report such indiscretions.
Even negative feedback appears to be non existent, why.
Steve c
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Some sellers use similar tactics to stop sales of an item whilst they are replenishnig stocks.If some numpty did buy at this proce they would pretty quickly nip out to the local $2 and buy one to send eh!
on โ29-07-2019 06:09 PM
Please ask yourself the following.
Even though this tactic may not catch you or I should we not be concerned about its possible impact on others?
Do you believe it's not a tactic being used by any sellers?
Do you believe ebay has no part to play in such matters, if the buyer didn't look carefully enough it's tough luck?
Can you point me to anywhere where this issue is being address or even discussed?
Thanks for your help Steve c
on โ29-07-2019 06:46 PM
on โ29-07-2019 07:14 PM
@sjchaps wrote:Please ask yourself the following.
Even though this tactic may not catch you or I should we not be concerned about its possible impact on others?
Do you believe it's not a tactic being used by any sellers?
Do you believe ebay has no part to play in such matters, if the buyer didn't look carefully enough it's tough luck?
Can you point me to anywhere where this issue is being address or even discussed?
Thanks for your help Steve c
Nobody has said that it never happens.
As long as I can remember there have been listings with outrageous item prices or postage costs.....anyone who would buy at the prices would need their heads examined. It is a tactic used when a seller is out of stock and is waiting for more stock and wants to keep their place in the search.
No, ebay is not responsible....sellers are responsible for their own listings. However, ebay has done something about it.....there is now an Out of Stock option, although a lot of sellers have no
t caught up with it yet.
on โ29-07-2019 07:22 PM
@sjchaps wrote:Please ask yourself the following.
Even though this tactic may not catch you or I should we not be concerned about its possible impact on others?
Do you believe it's not a tactic being used by any sellers?
Do you believe ebay has no part to play in such matters, if the buyer didn't look carefully enough it's tough luck?
Can you point me to anywhere where this issue is being address or even discussed?
Thanks for your help Steve c
I am not my brothers' keeper. Caveat emptor
Don't know, don't care
No, eBay don't; yes it is
No.
Frankly, if anybody is stupid enough to buy a common item from the other side of the world at, even without postage, 10 times the price the same item is available in-country, then they deserve to pay for it.
Apart from the extra cost, there is also the jet fuel used to destroy the planet a bit more.
A question for you - did the listing state 'Customs services and international tracking provided'?
on โ29-07-2019 07:32 PM
@sjchaps wrote:
Can you point me to anywhere where this issue is being address or even discussed?
Thanks for your help Steve c
eBay address postage piracy and price-jacking (to avoid sales) in their policies.
The postage policy is a little vague, in some regards, as they allow for postage cost paid to the carrier, additional services, or service upgrades (registered, express, signature on delivery, extra cover etc), and handling (which is where it gets vague, as all eBay do is mention handling costs can include the cost of packaging. They used to mention a couple of things a seller "can't" include in their postage charge but don't any more, like the cost of petrol to get to the PO was listed as something that should be in item price rather than postage costs - and I put "can't" in quotation marks because handling is such an all-encompassing term and there's no way for anyone to determine what a seller considers handlng, and what the cost / value of that handling is, except the seller).
It is also against policy to increase the price of items in order to maintain visibility of a listing when it is out of stock (in case you weren't aware, eBay has a site feature that hides listings when they reach 0 stock. I make use of it quite frequently). I tried to find where this policy is explicitly stated, but can't remember under what page it's listed; I feel like it specifically referred to item price (which might explain why some sellers have taken to doing it via postage costs), but can't remember 100%. If I find the policy, I'll link it later - the postage policy is found here, though: https://www.ebay.com.au/help/policies/selling-policies/selling-practices-policy?id=4346
Having the policies, and being prepared to enforce them are two different things - I'm not really sure the postage one can be enforced, for the reason I mentioned above. Most people looking at a listing for a small, light item only to see $400+ postage would consider that significantly inflated, and in general it would be considered a reasonable assumption, but reasonable assumption doesn't equal undeniable proof of a policy violation (and I feel a little galled typing that, knowing that ebay often take unreasonable assumptions as though they are undeniable proof).
If the seller is trying to avoid the sale in that manner, I suspect that a buyer is unlikely to be held to the price they committed to, to be honest (should one never actually look at the postage cost before buying), so I'm not sure in-depth discussion on that would nett much beyond people talking about what they think of the tactic.