on โ07-10-2013 10:56 PM
Ebays life blood is their sellers. They have continued to put up their fees and they are almost 10% of the sale price. Yes they are a buisness and they deserve right to make money. I beleive they are a little too greedy and are limiting the profitablity of the sellers. I beleive that if they make their fees 1/2 the cost then they will get more than double the amount of business. I would list at least twice as much as i do. How do you think Woolies and coles became mega rich? Not buy gouging the few, but by billions of small amounts. I really think ebay is a good system for sellers and buyers alike but come on Ebay, how about making a reasonable amount of money, and let us all do the same?
on โ08-10-2013 02:47 PM
I guess some people are always right.Even when What they say is absolute rubbish.
What is the point of these boards when certain users have different ideas,and when some people do not like these views then all they can keep saying is leave.
In fact sometimes i wonder if some of these people are on the Ebay payroll.
I know alot of sellers have my views on this topic as well.
The mind boggles.
โ08-10-2013 03:02 PM - edited โ08-10-2013 03:06 PM
@crikey*mate wrote:well, you and I are still here cats, so that's two loyal peeps they have.
I am no longer "loyal" to ebay, I used to have some level of loyalty, but no longer.
Whilst I am "stuck" as a seller here, as there is not a real competitor that could offer me even a fraction of the sales turnover that I get here, I am sure not stuck here as a buyer, and have ceased spending the significant amount of $$$$$ in this trading place that I once used to and have been actively seeking alternatives for sourcing a range of goods - including returning to B&Ms.
Earlier this year I would have said that I was a committed ebay shopper. The increase in auction listing costs for store-owners, coupled with the constant auction listing freebies for non-store owners has been a contributing factor for my looking elsewhere.
on โ08-10-2013 04:53 PM
and I reckon that's what it's all about Cats.
They know they don't need to focus on "us". We're stuck here regardless as there really is no alternative, we're a captured market. So now the attention is on those who do have choices.
It's kinda like after the floods when they were charging $10 for a loaf of bread or a bottle of milk. There was no choice if that's what you wanted. That's the terms and conditions the seller was pepared to operate under. The consumer either went without or obliged.
Maybe in time if enough buyers and sellers leave then eBay will adjust their current business model, but their three year strategic plan is not about "us", we're just not the type of customer that eBay is currently focusing on satisfying. probably becasue as you say, we are a captured market. They don't have to do anything to keep us.
so in that sense cat, yeah, we are loyal.
on โ08-10-2013 05:22 PM
@hawker1967 wrote:I guess some people are always right.Even when What they say is absolute rubbish.
What is the point of these boards when certain users have different ideas,and when some people do not like these views then all they can keep saying is leave.
In fact sometimes i wonder if some of these people are on the Ebay payroll.
I know alot of sellers have my views on this topic as well.
The mind boggles.
If you're referring to me, meh
I say you just don't understand business and are taking a cheap personal pot shot at me.
If you're not, I apologize.
I haven't said that I agree with what they are doing, I've simply been discussing how a business may operate and because I understand this also understand why my options are as they are.
eBay simply aren't concerned with whether Jonny Smith makes $200 this week or not. Their focus is presumedly on their bottom line and how they believe they can maintain and increase that for the future.
technically, in the real world I sell fridges to a certain demographic. They are my target, but I also sell to others willing to enter that market on a smaller or individual level. I don't pursue them, they're just there and they use my business model to generate a partial income for themselves and I get a bit of extra income too - so win win.
(I don't really sell fridges, I sell food to put in the fridges, but I have to supply the fridges - think of it like a coke fridge at your corner store) I also have a store front to pay the rent on an industrial kitchen and produce and home deliver individual eating plans and meals from there.)
My target audience, are businesses with more than one outlet. That's where I put my efforts, as it is simialr effort to win that contract as it is for an individual store owner but I get more out of it. However, if an individual store owner approaches me and wants to carry my line, of course I will look to accommodate them - but I don't work to get them iykwim.
It's really the same as eBay - it takes them the same amount of effort to look after you and I as one of their really big sellers. Their big sellers contribute more to their bottom line than you or I. (and I am not a very big eBay seller, so I contribute very little at all but I probably take as much effort and consume as many resources as the big sellers.)
on โ08-10-2013 05:25 PM
@thecatspjs wrote:
@crikey*mate wrote:well, you and I are still here cats, so that's two loyal peeps they have.
I am no longer "loyal" to ebay, I used to have some level of loyalty, but no longer.
Whilst I am "stuck" as a seller here, as there is not a real competitor that could offer me even a fraction of the sales turnover that I get here, I am sure not stuck here as a buyer, and have ceased spending the significant amount of $$$$$ in this trading place that I once used to and have been actively seeking alternatives for sourcing a range of goods - including returning to B&Ms.
Earlier this year I would have said that I was a committed ebay shopper. The increase in auction listing costs for store-owners, coupled with the constant auction listing freebies for non-store owners has been a contributing factor for my looking elsewhere.
Which could well be a factor in the downturn in sales that a lot of sellers are reporting.
โ08-10-2013 07:26 PM - edited โ08-10-2013 07:28 PM
@hawker1967 wrote:I guess some people are always right.Even when What they say is absolute rubbish.
What is the point of these boards when certain users have different ideas,and when some people do not like these views then all they can keep saying is leave.
In fact sometimes i wonder if some of these people are on the Ebay payroll.
I know alot of sellers have my views on this topic as well.
The mind boggles.
I reckon just keep putting your views and ignore or argue with the naysayers. I think the best threads are the ones that reflect a range of views - so I enjoy your contributions.
Cheers to hoping for a more ethical ebay in its approach to its customers
on โ08-10-2013 07:31 PM
pssst - you owe me a chocolate frog LOLOL
on โ08-10-2013 07:38 PM
GST is a tax and all retails stores do is collect it on behalf of the government. Nothing to do with ethics.
รheers,
Marina.
โ08-10-2013 07:44 PM - edited โ08-10-2013 07:46 PM
@crikey*mate wrote:pssst - you owe me a chocolate frog LOLOL
LOL I do .....
.. noting the fast track to the finish line with burst of kudos in CS photo competiton...
Well done & congrats
Cheers
where do I send it ??
...
and on topic yes, indeed the GST is a tax, but what the hey we all approach things from different angles .....
on โ08-10-2013 07:49 PM
just post it on the boards LOL
(a pic)
on topic: that would be the ethical thing to do LOLOLOLOL