Item that I had bid on for 10 day listing was removed with less than 12 hours of conclusion? Why

[giro_veloce]

Bid placed 9 days ago disappeared last night with only 12 hours remaining, no message or contact was made from buyer ! Why

[davewil1964]

I think you will find crikey knows a little bit about selling. Even including eBay.

I've never understood why people don't start items at the minimum they will accept (alright I did until I realised that 99c sales for $20 books weren't economically viable. Took a whole 2 months). You wouldn't sell your house without a reserve, but you wouldn't sell your house on eBay either.

And eBay auctions aren't auctions, per se. They are time limited invitations to tender, where you get to see other people's tenders.

[*stuff*books*]

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@artinvestaustralia wrote:

Yes, thank you j*oono, why not leave the choice to the seller whether to have a reserve or not on his/her auction??? With the amount in fees sellers pay, now, what is going on, eBay?

Another limitation eBay puts on selling at auction, against all logic since all their auctions anywhere on the planet but two places have a reserve accepted by eBay! What is so different in Australia, eBay?

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I presume it's so that things actually sell,(a seller ending an auction early is very much a minority).

The sites that have reserves on all listings seem to have a lot of items that just don't sell,(they just sit there month after month).

Most Aussie sellers have worked out that it's easier to just list with the minimum price that they are happy with.

There is nothing more frustrating then bidding on an auction and seeing the Reserve not met pop up.

I have never bid again with any seller after that has happened.

That's why I always place a small bid first with any seller in the US.

[artinvestaustralia]

I want the hard proof, please....

[*crikey*mate*]

LOLOLOL

[chezzy]

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@*crikey*mate* wrote:

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@artinvestaustralia wrote:

when ending a listing, you are offered only 4 reasons for cancelling your listing, your auction, your sale, when there are numerous other reasons a seller can encount forcing him/her to cancel their listing,

Reasons for ending listings early include:

• The item is no longer available for sale.

• There was an error in the starting price or reserve amount.

• There was an error in the listing.

• The item was lost or broken.

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What other reasons would there be?

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1) health/medical issue/suddenly unable to attend to ebay business, deal with questions or package/despatch items so need to postpone it (I don't consider the item no longer available for sale - as it will be relisted asap)

2) multiple interstate/overseas bidders who ignore the fact the listing is clearly PICK UP ONLY. Rather than having to keep cancelling bids and deal with argumentative bidders I decided it was easier just to end the listing > better for my blood pressure too!

[davewil1964]

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@artinvestaustralia wrote:

I want the hard proof, please....

I want to see your search warrant.

And if this is your selling ID, why do you think you have a monopoly on selling practises? Especially when you disparage all the eBay mandated ones?

For example, i sell 5 times what you do, I also have 100% feedback, I also have 4.9+ DSRs. Does that make me better than you?  by your logic it should, because I sell 5 times as much as you.

528 vs 104 transactions according to our feedback.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@chezzy wrote:

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@*crikey*mate* wrote:

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@artinvestaustralia wrote:

when ending a listing, you are offered only 4 reasons for cancelling your listing, your auction, your sale, when there are numerous other reasons a seller can encount forcing him/her to cancel their listing,

Reasons for ending listings early include:

• The item is no longer available for sale.

• There was an error in the starting price or reserve amount.

• There was an error in the listing.

• The item was lost or broken.

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What other reasons would there be?

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1) health/medical issue/suddenly unable to attend to ebay business, deal with questions or package/despatch items so need to postpone it (I don't consider the item no longer available for sale - as it will be relisted asap)

2) multiple interstate/overseas bidders who ignore the fact the listing is clearly PICK UP ONLY. Rather than having to keep cancelling bids and deal with argumentative bidders I decided it was easier just to end the listing > better for my blood pressure too!

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Thanks Chezzy!

I never considered the Pick Up only scenario, but I reckon if you got sick the "item no longer available one would be ok to use if you just couldn't make the item available at that time.

*shrugs*

It's the one I'd choose, anyway.Mainly because, i have a legal right to withdraw the item at any time I choose (12 hour window on ebay) before acceptance, and my personal situation is absolutely no one elses business. The law does not require me to explain.

To me, that really would be no longer available for sale - at the moment.

[j*oono]

When I started on ebay there were reserves.  So many auctions had in the title $1 start no reserve.  I suppose it was an interest booster.

Preferably I would prefer the seller to start with a realistic price.

I disagree that there aren't a lot of listings ended early.  Of course a seller should start with a price that they are willing to accept but ebay encourages sellers to drum up interest with a low start price and many, especially new sellers make that mistake.

Which means that at times either they end the auction early or there is a very unhappy seller with no profit or a very unhappy buyer that doesn't get what they wanted.

[*crikey*mate*]

Sometimes when we get the bonus free listings, if I have listings nearing their expiration date, i will end them and relist to make use of the free listing so they have a longer duration.(Never done that when I've had bids though, I usually list with BINs, but if you have not even a watcher on a listing I reckon I'd think about it.

If a customer asks me to hold an item for a while, i will end the listing and then relist it when the customer says they are ready to purcahse

Plus, I have noticed that when I list something, it shows up high in search results for a short period of time, so sometimes to get an item moving I wuill purposely end it to relist it so it ranks higher, especially in categories where there are heaps of search results, as at least for a little while, if they search in newly listed, my item is back on the first page.

So for all of these situations, I can see howe "not available at this time" would suit the scenario,.

[davewil1964]

True