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this was on the news today....Aus post managing director gets paid 5.6M salary. according to the news, the AU gov wanted to keep this a secret from AU tax payers.. he is the highest paid public servant in AU..WOW. ...

now i know why my postage costs keeps going up and up.

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Splitting the business for potential sell-off.

 

Make it look like the taxpayer shouldn't carry the costs of an "unprofitable" business.

 

Trial, then introduce reduced letter deliveries- putting those posties on halftime, increasing profit by reducing salary costs. Argue that reduced letters means something has to give (lets forget here, that prices went up...to cover service costs i.e. proper deliveries)

 

Court a buyer, then magically the parcel profits are back in play.


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@dazzledayz wrote:

 

Let's say we have 4000 posties nation wide (AP employs 36000 staff overall).

 

If each carried one small parcel per shift, at the $2 per item parcel courier rate, that would amount to over $2,000,000 pa that is currently on the Parcel ledger rather than that of  the letter business.


But how would your hypothesis work out if you base it on real life.....Australia Post certainly does not pay anything like $2 for parcel contractor/courier rates.

The current rate is $1.35 and if it cannot be delivered and has to be returned to the Post Office they get $1.35 for that drop no matter how many parcels are involved.

In some areas contractors can deliver as few as 50 parcels in a day.....would you like to live on $67.50 a day and pay your own tax and superannuation?

The average run is usually about 80-100 deliveries a day....even $108-$135 a day is not a lot to live on, pay your own tax and superannuation and fuel.

 

Couriers and contractors in highly populated areas like large cities are not too badly off, but think of those in the rural and semi rural areas where it takes a lot longer to drive between deliveries.

 

As far as giving one parcel to the postie per run....posties would be happy to deliver that one parcel but what is the point in giving them parcels that are never going to fit in a normal sized letterbox.

 

My postie has always delivered small parcels that will fit in the letterbox.....large letters, CDs, DVDs etc, but now he is arriving with quite large parcels such as complete series of DVDs.  In the past, these would have been delivered by the contractor and safe dropped in a place that has been used for safe drop for years.   Now I have to go to the post office to collect my "small" parcels.

 

These days I am getting quite a few items with damaged packaging at the very least because they are being stuffed into a letter box that is too small to take it.....and I have the largest letter box that I can find....A4.

 

 

 

 

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@amber-eyed-girl wrote:

Splitting the business for potential sell-off.

 

Make it look like the taxpayer shouldn't carry the costs of an "unprofitable" business.

 

Trial, then introduce reduced letter deliveries- putting those posties on halftime, increasing profit by reducing salary costs. Argue that reduced letters means something has to give (lets forget here, that prices went up...to cover service costs i.e. proper deliveries)

 

Court a buyer, then magically the parcel profits are back in play.


Putting posties on half time is not going to work, especially in the cities.

I am near the end of the run for my postie and it is not uncommon to see him delivering here at 3-3.30pm.  He has to finish the run and go back to the post office with anything he has not been able to deliver....before 5pm when the post office closes.

 

Most of the year he has to pick up at least one extra bag of mail which has been dropped at the half way point of his run.  In peak times he picks up 2 or 3 extra bags.  Packages that do not fit in the letter boxes are slowing him down even more.

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It's all about improving the finances before a sale.

 

Last year I had an Australia Post survey in my letterbox.

 

It asked, in part, whether I would be happiest with:

 

delivery only twice a week

 

delivery only three times a week

 

paying, for five day delivery, for the letter post.

 

It shows where the thinking is to cut costs...of course they don't care about the posties or the customers.


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@amber-eyed-girl wrote:

 

 

It's all about improving the finances before a sale.

 

Last year I had an Australia Post survey in my letterbox.

 

It asked, in part, whether I would be happiest with:

 

delivery only twice a week

 

delivery only three times a week

 

paying, for five day delivery, for the letter post.

 

It shows where the thinking is to cut costs...of course they don't care about the posties or the customers.


We have to ask ourselves these days what exactly govt is all about.

 

They seem to be in a rush to privatise or corporatise everything they possibly can while ignoring the fact that many of these services are well described as a "public good".

 

An affordable mail service is by definition a service both the public and industry need yet they seem to be intent on making it as unaffordable as possible.

 

Even the Chinese govts command economic policies see the value of a subsidised postal system (particularly international for the obvious foreign exchange benefits).

 

UK Royal Mail worked out you can even do discount internatonal and actually show a profit!

 

@Lyndal - I didn't realise the courier rate was so low; I'd always thought it was $2 per parcel which is still pretty low.

 

Maybe Fair Work should have a look at this contracting caper in the same light as they looked at other industry underpayments.

 

If these couriers are required to work almost exclusively for AP at rates like these it is an obviously abusive contractual labour agreement.

 

On the figures you are quoting these contractors are running at a significant loss which can only result in massive corner cutting, inadequate vehicle maintenance, insurance coverage and the temptation to engage in pillaging.

 

The more I hear about all this the worse it seems!

 

The parcel system may be making a profit at the moment but if those pay rates are to be believed it won't stay that way for long.

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I couldn't believe it when my local contractor for Aus Post told me that she gets $1.00 - $1.50 per parcel regardless of size or weight. On a good day, she might have 200 - 250 packages, which barely is a decent days work after all of the expenses come out. It's no wonder the abuse of the delivery system occurs and hopefully some changes happen for the positive in the future. 

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@dazzledayz wrote:

@Lyndal - I didn't realise the courier rate was so low; I'd always thought it was $2 per parcel which is still pretty low.

 

Maybe Fair Work should have a look at this contracting caper in the same light as they looked at other industry underpayments.

 

If these couriers are required to work almost exclusively for AP at rates like these it is an obviously abusive contractual labour agreement.

 

On the figures you are quoting these contractors are running at a significant loss which can only result in massive corner cutting, inadequate vehicle maintenance, insurance coverage and the temptation to engage in pillaging.

 

The more I hear about all this the worse it seems!

 

The parcel system may be making a profit at the moment but if those pay rates are to be believed it won't stay that way for long.


I have just read this out to two StarTrack contractors and they are still ROFL....they were nearly hysterical when I was reading it.

 

These rates were negotiated by the Union and are far better than AP was originally offering.   They are the same base rates that apply to ALL courier sub contractors althoug many private companies pay more....above award rates are prized obviously.

This is similar to any industry Award Rates....either agree or get out of the industry.

StarTrack contractors are exclusively working for the one company....they are definitely not independent contractors once they sign that contract with StarTrack.

 

It is not the contractors who are cutting corners....they can't cut corners and still abide by their contracts.    Vehicles have to be updated every 5 years no matter what condition they are in and how reliable they are.   It is in their own interests to maintain their vehicles properly....if they keep breaking down they will be suspended until they get the vehicle into running order.  Worst case scenario they get the sack.

 

All insurances have to be paid through the company....it they are not paid when due the driver gets no work until paid.

Every 12 months the driver must produce evidence of a current driver's Licence, all applicable courier insurances being up to date even though they are paid through the company, and copies of vehicle registration, green slip and comprehensive insurance.

 

As for pillaging....not much chance of doing that more than once....all parcels are scanned into the system before the driver leaves the base.  The vehicles are randomly inspected by security guards when they leave the base and random vehicles are pulled aside for a full security check involving unloading and checking the scanning.  Most drivers get the full check at least once a week.

There is also random drug and alcohol testing....my OH swears he has Random as his middle name as he is usually tested at least once a month.

 

At night they are inspected as they arrive at the base where they return any undelivered parcels.   There is another vehicle check when they leave the base to go home.   All these checks can be as invasive as asking the drivers to get out so the guards can inspect under the seats.

 

Not all courier companies have such strict security although most of the larger ones do.

I have to admit to getting rather hot under the collar when I see some of the courier bashing that goes on here on the boards....it really is not as easy as people think to pilfer from any courier company.

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Lyndal you were saying earlier that these guys average 80-100 parcels per day?

 

So if that's the case and they re working 6 days a week that's still only $810 per week gross.

 

I understand that they'll be claiming all their inputs so probably will pay little or no tax but still, the take home must still be marginal as they should be paying nearly 40% of that figure out in costs.

 

How do these drivers manage to make a living doing this?

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I've never really understood why so many people are quick to say that courier or postal workers steal stuff. Take my stuff for example, is someone really going to risk their livelihood, not to mention potentially get a criminal record for a $10 coffee cup or a $20 brooch? Given most parcels don't have written on them what the contents are, they could be stealing anything from a 50c pen to a $1,000 diamond ring. It would be a lucky dip with no guarantee of a return. I certainly wouldn't be risking my job for a 50c pen, I'm sure thousands upon thousands of drivers wouldn't either.

 

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tippy tippy tippy

 

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