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world_of_opals · ‎15-01-2022

I was recently blocked for no legitimate reason. What happened was I had last week installed Norton Anti-Track app on my PC and was not aware that following my first bid a message was sent from Seller to me to verify that I was legitimate buyer as I apparently have low score (which I disagree as I have Turquoise star for Feedback score from 100 to 499 100% - member since 2000 - 20+ years and never ever blocked). Anyhow, I responded about 1/2 to maybe an hour after auction finished only when I discovered this message because my next bid stated I was restricted and to contact seller. Well I did but he has never looked at my polite responses - never rude. In fact pleaded my case. Ebay apparently do something as well but my software blocked their attempts as spam! So they obviously concluded I was a risk. What a load of Bull Dust!!!! I am one of the BEST buyers you could ever hop for.

I am just annoyed that you are never given the opportunity to plead your case and prove who you really are. I sent 6-8 messages to seller with zero response. I aven sent a copy as attachment photo of my business registration with ASIC to prove who I am. Nothing.

Very unhappy with this Seller that he does not check out or respond to top eBay buyers.

Thanks for letting me vent - I feel better now!

world_of_opals · ‎21-01-2022

Cheers. You are probably one of only a few that have understood exactly what occurred. Yes, I also think that as they blocked my biiding this also blocks my future messages and they never get to see my future nicely worded and apologetic messages. With that said. I have had two other people successfully place bids on my behalf. The first got the restricted message and sent this seller a request and then permitted to bid. They did this but could not increase their bid at any time before the end of the auction as still came up restricted and the seller did not respond to their second request 1 day prior to the auction ending. Why? I don't know. They were outbid by $15 in total. Everything had been done properly by this bidder yet the seller never responded to any further request to bid on other items - very strange - again why block this bidder? No reason. I then got another bidder from a different town and state - totally unrelated in any way to me to place a bid on my behalf. This bidder has more than 1600 positive purchase feedback over past 6 months. Again, they where restricted initially and then sent message and ok to bid . They bid several hundred dollars on an item and led the auction for more than 4 days till outbid. They went to increase their bid and received restricted message again. Send message to seller and AGAIN NO RESPONSE - Although this seller has about 100 positive feedback (100%) something tells me they do not know what they are doing. I also see quite a number of exactly the same items being relisted again despite this apparently ball being no reserve 99 cent auctions. Something spooky about the seller not the buyers in this case. The item ended up being sold - apparently? Time will tell if relisted again. This buyer is going to attempt another bid on another item with a winning opening bid. I don't care if I pay excessive for one item - I just want to see how legitimate this seller actually is.

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gutterpunkz05 · ‎16-01-2022

Thanks for letting me vent - I feel better now!

Peter Spencer

Why? the sellers details will be removed and you will not have achieved anything, except for foolishly attempting to big note and naming yourself on a public forum.

As the sellers auctions are ending well over the starting prices, and they are happy with the result, then they are hardly the loser!!

Edit, By the way, I have decided to also block you, just because I can, and I doubt I will be the only one.

sandypebbles · ‎16-01-2022

Most would consider taking 20 years to get to 370 a low score, top eBay buyer ? ?....ok

Sellers have every right to protect themselves if they have the most slightest concern something might be off

eBay would not/will not/have not tell /make any seller to sell to the buyer

If the 6-8 hounding messages sent did anything, it would be to put this seller and any other seller reading here off ever wanting to sell anything to you

As mentioned, as you agreed to when posting here, you are not allowed to name and shame

While your tantrum may have made you feel better, it will not get you what you want

kopenhagen5 · ‎16-01-2022

I would question whether that seller is using other accounts to shill.

BTW, buyers can only get positive feedback so besides 300-400 being low for an eBayer, it also doesn't equate to meaning anything.

padi*0409 · ‎16-01-2022

A couple of things to note Kopes, yes I agree shill-bidding could be happening with all the sellers items being "private listings", but take a glance at the sellers feedback left - it's quite illuminating............ The other thing is that the OP must have put bids on a large number of items to get to the $5,000, which could have raised red flags with the seller.

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digital*ghost · ‎16-01-2022

"A seller just lost more than $5000 in sales for using private and blocking tools..."

Sounds to me like that's what they intended?

Like, if they block someone, a seller pretty much intuitively knows they are "losing" the business of whoever they block, yeah? Or at least, I assume / hope they know that, lol.

A seller can only make decisions based on the information they have - and that info was clearly a bidder placing bids on their items, that they reached out to but never got a response from, so they were blocked from bidding any further. If a seller sees a flag that looks kinda red and when they try to take a closer look to confirm, can't do so, they generally can't afford to be like "but what if some convoluted set of circumstances has lead to this anomaly?" 🤔

I remember once I had a buyer who got up in arms about having a UPI case opened against them - they won one of my auctions, hadn't paid after several days, so I sent a quick polite message asking if they still wanted to proceed with the purchase, still no reply after another few days, so I opened a UPI. Got a whole indignant essay within 24 hours about my poor treatment of them, they are a great and reliable buyer who just happened to be on holiday for the last X days and how dare I take such bullying action against them blah blah blah. 🙄 Meanwhile they had disappeared off the face of the earth for all I knew and I just didn't want to be charged fees by eBay on a sale that by all appearances had fallen through, and a UPI was the only way to get my fees back reliably at the time. The only difference here, perhaps, is that I did not let said buyer get away with that rubbish, and emailed them back with some home truths.

davewil1964 · ‎16-01-2022

My takeout from this is that you think your decision to install software that prevents you receiving an email of a seller's message to you is somehow eBay's or the seller's fault, rather than yours.

Noting that any messages will appear in your eBay messages as well as your email. Don't check your eBay account? Still somebody else's fault? Dream on.

springyzone · ‎17-01-2022

I can't see details, they have obviously been edited out, but a few things come to mind here.

The seller sold his item, by the sounds of it. Maybe you may have bid higher if you had had the chance but the thing is, the seller doesn't know if you are legit and they haven't 'lost' a sale, they just haven't sold to you.

You say the seller sent a message to you just to touch base and suss out you were a genuine buyer but it never got through or was hidden somehow? That sounds really odd, was it not in your ebay messages? If you were only checking email though, that is not the fault of the seller.

I personally don't see 370 as a low feedback score, I think the seller's main problem would be that you failed to respond to a message and it was about a big ticket item. That would put the wind up any seller.

You say you sent the seller 6-8 messages. If you had never bought from them and if they blocked you, would they even see those messages? I was under the impression that once a person was blocked, their messages could also be blocked. So don't be unhappy with the seller, they followed their best instincts at the time.

I believe you, that you are probably a good and sincere buyer but perhaps in future when bidding, pop into ebay regularly and check your messages, not just your email account.

sandypebbles · ‎17-01-2022

Given the prices of the things the seller had/has for sale, Springy, the OP would have had to had been buying a jolly lot of things to hit over $5000

That may have even set alarm bells within eBay itself before it did with the seller

springyzone · ‎17-01-2022

Thanks, sandy. I was assuming it was a big ticket item or items because of the price but yes, if there were suddenly bids on lots of things by the same person, a seller would start to feel nervous if they didn't get a reply to a message. That would be understandable.