DON'T give me any second chance offers

[shoppingbag*]

TO ALL SELLERS OUT THERE.  Don't bother giving me second chance offers!  I won't ever take it up!  I will give an example of what I mean....I bid on an item that I really wanted, so put a very high bid on, and thought that no-one would outbid me....lo and behold a sniper did!  Well, the sniper didn't pay for the item, so I was offered it at MY HIGHEST BID.  The sniping doesn't worry me, nor the fact that I was outbid, what REALLY, REALLY annoys me, is that a NON-PAYING bidder can bid as high as they like, a MILLION DOLLARS  if they like, after all, they are not going to pay anyway!  So why aren't  ALL of their bids deleted when they do not pay, as if they never bid at all, and why should I pay the maximum amount I bid, instead of the amount I would have paid if they had not bid at all?  I have no way of knowing if this was SHILL bidding or not, and even if not, I consider the non-paying buyer's bids to be invalid and they should be totally removed.  So, no matter how much I wanted the item, I would NEVER EVER EVER buy it under these circumstances. It's a matter of principle.

[bigbrickshop]

If you don't want to receive Second Chance Offers you can turn them off in your Preferences.

Go to your My eBay and under the Account tab click on Communication Preferences. Show Member to Member Preferences and select None next to Second Chance Offers then Save.

[ratman0100]

Yes I can understand that. Seems unfair as I have had that happen more than once myself. 

[beach_and_home]

I can see why you're frustrated. But there is one thing you may not have thought of, and that is a second chance offer can be sent when a seller has more than one of the item. It is not always the case that the first person didn't pay.

For instance, I use auctions all the time to promote my store, like advertising. And I often have 10 or 20 of an item. So when an auction finishes, I send the under-bidders a second chance offer simply because I have more.

The weird thing is that they then can buy the item for LESS than the winner. So actually, in these cases the under-bidders are the WINNERS.

[jameshouseofstyle]

Hi shoppingbag,

while everyone else seems to see how and why you are frustrated - I can't.

I can only assume you have bid on something you like with the price you were happy to pay - so just because someone didn't pay how is that different to the end result - it's not like they gave you a higher offer!

Even if the non payer indeed put in a "million dollars" as you say - you were still left with the price you typed in yourself.

And, after all, what was the seller supposed to do -  submit a sec. chance offer at a much lower price?

With the amount in your highest bid still in place and clearly visible they had every right to conclude that is what you were happy to pay.

I very seldom bid on anything, can count on my fingers how many times in total over the years - but each time, without exception, I put in the highest bid I would like to pay and don't care who pays, who doesn't , they can do all they like, on the end I will either get it or I won't..

But if I did the same as you, put overly large bid on something just to somehow "secure" the item - and I ended up being the highest bidder at that price  - that would be obviously entirely my doing.

[digital*ghost]

Slightly O/T, but I once placed two separate bids on an item I buy with relative frequency. I wasn't the winner, but after the auction ended, the seller sent out SCOs to all the underbidders, which resulted in me receiving two offers to buy the item at each of my bid prices. I happily accepted both. 

Back O/T, a seller has no way of knowing whether a buyer will appreciate the chance to still purchase an item. And unless this post is stickied to the forum, and every seller decides to check here if a bidder that participated in their auction has added their name to some kind of DO NOT SCO list, there's not much point in getting frustrated or anything else in receiving one. It's intended to be an offer that's mutually beneficial (seller gets to sell the item, buyer doesn't have to risk not winning at auction), not an insult or annoyance. 😉

[kopenhagen5]

shoppingbag, I do the same.

I also out of principle don't buy from offers after an auction end if I have been outbid.

For the same reason, there may be shilling, let the seller be stuck with paying the fees and if it's not shilling, I usually find another.

Bidding on high numbers of auctions means that sometimes you pay what you bid and sometimes less then your max bid. Not always winning at max bid.

[springyzone]

TO ALL SELLERS OUT THERE.  Don't bother giving me second chance offers!  I won't ever take it up!  I will give an example of what I mean....I bid on an item that I really wanted, so put a very high bid on, and thought that no-one would outbid me....lo and behold a sniper did!  Well, the sniper didn't pay for the item, so I was offered it at MY HIGHEST BID.  The sniping doesn't worry me, nor the fact that I was outbid, what REALLY, REALLY annoys me, is that a NON-PAYING bidder can bid as high as they like, a MILLION DOLLARS  if they like, after all, they are not going to pay anyway!  So why aren't  ALL of their bids deleted when they do not pay, as if they never bid at all, and why should I pay the maximum amount I bid, instead of the amount I would have paid if they had not bid at all?  I have no way of knowing if this was SHILL bidding or not, and even if not, I consider the non-paying buyer's bids to be invalid and they should be totally removed.  So, no matter how much I wanted the item, I would NEVER EVER EVER buy it under these circumstances. It's a matter of principle.

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Amen to that, shopping bag.

At least with a second chance bid, you can knock it back, decline.

Imagine how I felt to be bid up and then have the winning bidder withdraw their last bid before end of auction, leaving me as the legal winner, where I had to pay.

If one of their bids is withdrawn as a 'mistake' then all their bids should be.

Having said that, I have at times accepted second chance offers. Sometimes the seller just has more of them. Happened to me with a wedding wishing well. Made me happy i had not bid any more, actually.

[springyzone]

TO ALL SELLERS OUT THERE.  Don't bother giving me second chance offers!  I won't ever take it up!  I will give an example of what I mean....I bid on an item that I really wanted, so put a very high bid on, and thought that no-one would outbid me....lo and behold a sniper did!  Well, the sniper didn't pay for the item, so I was offered it at MY HIGHEST BID.  The sniping doesn't worry me, nor the fact that I was outbid, what REALLY, REALLY annoys me, is that a NON-PAYING bidder can bid as high as they like, a MILLION DOLLARS  if they like, after all, they are not going to pay anyway!  So why aren't  ALL of their bids deleted when they do not pay, as if they never bid at all, and why should I pay the maximum amount I bid, instead of the amount I would have paid if they had not bid at all?  I have no way of knowing if this was SHILL bidding or not, and even if not, I consider the non-paying buyer's bids to be invalid and they should be totally removed.  So, no matter how much I wanted the item, I would NEVER EVER EVER buy it under these circumstances. It's a matter of principle.

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Amen to that, shopping bag.

At least with a second chance bid, you can knock it back, decline.

Imagine how I felt to be bid up and then have the winning bidder withdraw their last bid before end of auction, leaving me as the legal winner, where I had to pay.

If one of their bids is withdrawn as a 'mistake' then all their bids should be.

Having said that, I have at times accepted second chance offers. Sometimes the seller just has more of them. Happened to me with a wedding wishing well. Made me happy i had not bid any more, actually.

[springyzone]

but each time, without exception, I put in the highest bid I would like to pay and don't care who pays, who doesn't , they can do all they like, on the end I will either get it or I won't..

But if I did the same as you, put overly large bid on something just to somehow "secure" the item - and I ended up being the highest bidder at that price  - that would be obviously entirely my doing.

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James. I don't think that is her point exactly.

Her point is that she might be willing to pay that in an honest auction, but she doesn't appreciate the price being beaten up dishonestly.

And in fact, I have a feeling it is against ebay policy to put in false bidding in order to find the max someone will pay.

[davewil1964]

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@kopenhagen5 wrote:

shoppingbag, I do the same.

I also out of principle don't buy from offers after an auction end if I have been outbid.

For the same reason, there may be shilling, let the seller be stuck with paying the fees and if it's not shilling, I usually find another.

Bidding on high numbers of auctions means that sometimes you pay what you bid and sometimes less then your max bid. Not always winning at max bid.

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With respect, Kopes, I don't think you are qualified to post on this subject.