Help with super nervous seller!

[sea.breeze]

I'm in QLD, I just bought a p/u dehumidifer from NSW, because they had the original packing box. I checked with the seller about the box and that I needed that for the courier. OK so I won the auction and paid for the item which is only $150. Then I booked a courier to collect and sent the seller a courier label to affix to the item. Everyone was happy.

Suddenly today I get a paypal refund as the seller cancelled.

He somehow thinks this is a scam, even though I've sold tens of thousands of dollars worth of stuff over 15 years he thinks this is some elaborate fraud. I ask him what is he worried about he's already been paid, he says he has trawled through the PayPal website and says because I'm picking it up, after it's collected somehow I can change the delivery address and say that I never received it.

I tried to explain that 1. That is not possible, it has a label on it, and 2. Even if it was possible he isn't responsible for the delivery as I picked it up. Then he checked my address and finds out that there's air b&b downstairs so that 'set his alarm bells off', so I said I can scan my drivers license with my address but that's apparently not good enough.

If it wasn't for the fact that he has a box I wouldn't bother. As far as I can see there is not possible way that he can be scammed in the way that he's claiming.

What say you people, if he asks you for advice what would you tell him? I'll refer him to this thread. Any further questions just ask.

Meantime I'll have to cancel the courier for the moment. Which by the way is TNT/Smartsend.

[padi*0409]

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@4channel wrote:

They communicated by phone and offered the license scan. We have the mention of phone records potential and courier tracking as well. What more could one ask for?  You're not about to suggest that the OP is not being straight with us. Are you?

Personally I believe what the OP has stated. The OP also said somethiing was fishy about this.

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Nowhere has the OP stated that they communicated by phone. The seller has stated that they were uncomfortable with a courier pick-up after Googling the possibility of scams, so they cancelled the transaction as is their right.

The OP has found a similar product on Gumtree at a much cheaper price and has moved on.

[repentatleisure1952]

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@4channel wrote:

Hang on a minute mate. The OP is an exoperienced buyer seller with a top line rating. They communicated by phone and offered the license scan. We have the mention of phone records potential and courier tracking as well. What more could one ask for?  You're not about to suggest that the OP is not being straight with us. Are you?

Personally I believe what the OP has stated. The OP also said somethiing was fishy about this.

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https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Buying/Vindictive-seller-plan-backfires-and-she-still-doesn-t-get-i...

[4channel]

There was no point in bringing that up tuckcase. One past whatever you want to call it shouldn't reflect on the OP's credibility with this situation. I've gone back and re-read the opening post and there'ss no reason to doubt the OP's analysis of this "fishy" situation. I'm taking the OP at their word. Looking at the feedback received and given, I see a well rounded sensible person with a top-line rating!

Look it's best OP has found an alternative elsewhere. If there was an issue with this item and if by chance the seller is a panic-merchant or someone who has major anxiety issues who goes into shutdown mode then an even worse headache has been avoided.

[davewil1964]

You are the one who claimed, without evidence, that the seller was fraudulant.

You are the one who claims that people should be taken on their past behaviour.

You are the one who now claims that a person's past shouldn't have any bearing on the present.

I am the one asking you to logically justify that stance.

[repentatleisure1952]

You are correct... the seller has avoided an "even worse headache"

[padi*0409]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

I am the one asking you to logically justify that stance.

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I'll await that answer with baited breath.            

Spoiler

I'm certain there's a logical reason for the shift in opinion......just can't for the life of me see it.

[4channel]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

You are the one who claimed, without evidence, that the seller was fraudulant.

You are the one who claims that people should be taken on their past behaviour.

You are the one who now claims that a person's past shouldn't have any bearing on the present.

I am the one asking you to logically justify that stance.

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LOL davewil1964? on steroids.

I didn't claim that the seller was fraudulent. I suggested a possibility. I also suggested laziness.

Davewil, if you were taken on past behaviour you'd be sent back in time to Siberia.

[davewil1964]

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@4channel wrote:

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@davewil1964 wrote:

You are the one who claimed, without evidence, that the seller was fraudulant.

You are the one who claims that people should be taken on their past behaviour.

You are the one who now claims that a person's past shouldn't have any bearing on the present.

I am the one asking you to logically justify that stance.

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LOL davewil1964? on steroids.

I didn't claim that the seller was fraudulent. I suggested a possibility. I also suggested laziness.

Davewil, if you were taken on past behaviour you'd be sent back in time to Siberia.

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You justify that statement how?

On my past buying and selling behaviour?

Or on the fact that I call people out when they constantly change their stance in order to, generally unsuccessfully, attack members they don't agree with?

You did call the seller fraudulant. Without evidence. Just your anti-seller bias. Which is on record, so don't bother denying it.

[4channel]

Please give it a rest davewil1964.

[davewil1964]

Happy to.

When you stop posting 'advice' that doesn't have anything to do with the particulars of an OP's question.

I guess I'm unlikely to get any rest.