Negative feedback disappeared

[rosebelle9798]

I was shocked when the first negative feedback I left for a Seller had disappeared. I'm also posting because in my search for understanding I found similar threads with similar experiences.

I have made enquiries and I can only see two possible senarios but I might need further enlightenment.

1. my negative feedback left for a seller was removed because their Follow-up was considered defamatory, and therefor the Whole feedback including my feedback although it did not breach policy was removed.

Or 2. the Seller sent a Notice of Claim of Defamation Statutory Declaration to have it removed.

Either of these actions (if one is indeed the reason) made me feel that this was unfair. It seemed that I initiated a complaint with Ebay against the Seller which resulted not in any sanctions against the Sellar but a reward.

Clearly the first senario (if true- and I don't know) is extraordinary.

Because I am unable to ascertain whether the Seller had used this process; I only have an Email ( sent outside Ebay) from the company saying that they are undergoing this (after Resolution Process). I note that atleast Ebay UK policy is that I should have been Notified and given a copy if requested; these rules don't seem to apply here.

Am I right to assume that because I have received no advice from Ebay that the Seller has not submitted this "Notice"  so senario 2. can't be?

This leaves 1. or what else?

I have not found on any forum that anybody has discussed the Notice of Claim of Defamation Statutory Declaration, I can see that the use may be abused by Sellers to have Negative Feedback removed.

Although I have noticed Sellers concern about not being able to leave Buyers negative feedback, I am writing this as a Buyer with possible concern about Buyer's right to leave negative feedback on less than satisfactory Seller's .

I have tried to analyse the Seller's scores (that I left negative feedback that disappeared as mentioned above) and found that they had received 1,098 but with only (971) against their ID. What were they Neutral or negative and what happened to the 127?. What does it also say about the Seller when his score is 971 but the Seller has only left 908 for others?

Could the 63 or the other 127 have left negative feedback that nolonger appears?

[outback_blends]

I love this bit in the reply ....

Removing negative feedback from sellers is why I bought an item from someone that has a bad record of selling in the first place. 

Still scratching my head on that ???? 

[padi*0409]

Ah, but did you enjoy the smoke from the burnoff opposite the Shamrock that we produced for you yesterday?    

[outback_blends]

Still very smokey today. I am a big believer of burnoffs....just not on days when its 40 degrees like most shires seem to do them 🙂

[padi*0409]

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@outback_blends wrote:

Still very smokey today. I am a big believer of burnoffs....just not on days when its 40 degrees like most shires seem to do them 🙂

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Not surprised at the smoke still being there, there was a lot of fuel in some parts of that block.

40 deg ????

It was well over that in some of the places where I was standing..................  But a burger and a cold beer from the Shammie put that right after we finished up.............

[countessalmirena]

duffl03, you may want to read eBay's Feedback manipulation policy.

Spoiler

"What is feedback manipulation?

Any attempt to artificially increase your Feedback score, or lower another member's, is considered Feedback manipulation."

Also, you may want to peruse eBay's Unwelcome and malicious buying policy.

Spoiler

"Members are also not allowed to bid on or buy an item to disrupt or to leave negative feedback."

You certainly had an interesting comment to make in this feedback, and I note that the seller responded in appropriate fashion.

dfgdshdgts                                  Seller: [seller's id] ()         During past year 

                     Reply by [seller's id] (30-Oct-17 22:11):

                     stgdhsdgfd 😛

[brerrabbit585]

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@outback_blends wrote:

I love this bit in the reply ....

Removing negative feedback from sellers is why I bought an item from someone that has a bad record of selling in the first place. 

Still scratching my head on that ???? 

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Easy enough to work out that they meant the seller had obviously had other negative feedback removed in the past, which is why they ended up buying from someone with a bad record (that wasn't actually showing).

[*tippy*toes*]

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@imastawka wrote:

Tippy, did you look at fb left for others?    

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Yes? I could only see 1 neg on page 1 of 200 feedbacks.

[countessalmirena]

Mm-hmm - from what's been said, the purchase was made deliberately with the intention of leaving negative feedback.

[*tippy*toes*]

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@brerrabbit585 wrote:

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@outback_blends wrote:

I love this bit in the reply ....

Removing negative feedback from sellers is why I bought an item from someone that has a bad record of selling in the first place. 

Still scratching my head on that ???? 

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Easy enough to work out that they meant the seller had obviously had other negative feedback removed in the past, which is why they ended up buying from someone with a bad record (that wasn't actually showing).

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I misread that bolded bit. Yikes! That member won't have a long eBay career with that attitude. It only takes a few malicious feedbacks to get booted off. And now they've outed themselves on a public message board. 

Party anyone?

[brerrabbit585]

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@countessalmirena wrote:

Mm-hmm - from what's been said, the purchase was made deliberately with the intention of leaving negative feedback.

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I don't know where you get that from.  I read it as them saying that they would never have bought from that seller if their bad feedback from the past was still showing, instead of being removed when it shouldn't be.  In other words, if they'd known what the seller was really like they would never have bought from them, but they've got no way of knowing what the seller is really like because their bad feedback keeps getting removed.