29-12-2015 09:15 AM - edited 29-12-2015 09:18 AM
So I placed a bid on an item selling for $355. Five seconds before the auction had ended I bid $360. Apparently there had been a bid placed a day earlier before mine. Their bid was $365.
Is there some sort of hidden bidding option? Can someone please explain to me how I manage to lose an extremely rare listing simply over $5? I would've easily placed more had I actually known the highest bid was $5 above my own. Sorry, still sort've new at Ebay.
If such a hidden bidding system exists then that is extremely unfair and I have no idea why they would implement something like this.
29-12-2015 09:20 AM - edited 29-12-2015 09:21 AM
How does bidding work?
To make bidding more convenient, as well as manually increasing your bid, you can use eBay's automatic bidding system. Here's how it works:
http://ocsnext.ebay.com.au/ocs/sr
What's unfair there?
on 29-12-2015 09:36 AM
@jmacmillan95 wrote:So I placed a bid on an item selling for $355. Five seconds before the auction had ended I bid $360. Apparently there had been a bid placed a day earlier before mine. Their bid was $365.
Always bid the highest you are willing to pay near the end of an auction as then you wont be disappointed if
you don't win.
Is there some sort of hidden bidding option? Can someone please explain to me how I manage to lose an extremely rare listing simply over $5? I would've easily placed more had I actually known the highest bid was $5 above my own. Sorry, still sort've new at Ebay.
There can always be a higher bid in place due to the automatic bidding that eBay uses,(your bid only trumps
the current bid,but if a higher bid had been placed earlier it will automaticly beat yours).
If such a hidden bidding system exists then that is extremely unfair and I have no idea why they would implement something like this.
It is the same system as used by other auction sites to gain best outcome for them,(eg: higher prices).
The other way is to bid your maximum and use a sniper program like Gixen,(which will bid in the last seconds
for you): http://www.gixen.com/index.php
on 29-12-2015 09:43 AM
to explain simpler for you the bloke who bid $355 prob bid lets say $380 thats his max nobody sees that not even the seller , thats why $360 was not enough , had the bloke before you have a max bid of $355 you would of won it with $360.
lets say you were the first to bid on an auction and it starts at $1 and you bid $5 it will only show $1.25 only you know you have put a max bid of $5, and if someone else comes in and bids $3 you will still be winning because he did not bid over the $5
29-12-2015 10:00 AM - edited 29-12-2015 10:04 AM
There's nothing unfair and nothing secret about it.
It is probably just that you don't know how the system works & that's something you should familiarise yourself with if you are going to buy (or later on, maybe sell) on ebay. You're being critical over your own lack of preparation or diligence.
First off, if you went to a real live auction, say of a house, you would not know what other people's highest bids were going to be.
They would be there, you would be there, bidding against each other and wondering when the other person would stop.
Sometimes there could even be a rep there, working on behalf of a bidder who was perhaps interstate.
But no one there reveals their max figures and you won't know them till the fall of the hammer.
Ebay isn't exactly like that. People will put themselves out to attend a house auction, because that is important, but on ebay, a person might be interested in bidding on a small item where the auction ends at an inconvenient time-maybe in the middle of their shift at work.
They can hardly be expected to take the day off work to bid on an item that might only cost eg $20. Or even $365.
So to make it more accessible to everyone, there is a system in place.
Anyone who sees an item they are interested in bidding on can think about the top price they would be willing to pay for it. Let's say, in the case of the item you were looking at, you had been willing to go up to $450 if you had to. But no further. Let's say the bidding was showing at $355.
Of course, you don't want to pay $450 if you don't have to. You're like the bidder at a house auction, you would rather go up by small increments as the need arises rather than reveal your max straight away.
What you can do on ebay though is type in your max. So.. you could type in $450 as your bid. It won't show to other interested parties such as the seller or other bidders, only to you and ebay.
Ebay has a computer generated system though which will act like your personal representative while you are away at work or offline. It will bid up on your behalf in small increments, as the need arises.
So.. if someone else comes along and bids $360, your auto bid might show as $365 immediately, outbidding them. Even though you aren't there.
It will keep on bidding if it has to, till it reaches your max.
But here's the thing. If someone else is willing to pay eg $455, they will win.
Where you went wrong is you obviously typed in $360. That is recorded as your maximum bid. But it wasn't, was it? You would have been prepared to pay more.
You should have typed in the max you were really willing to pay & it would covered you up to that amount.
Just a note. The auction may have ended at $365 but I doubt that was the other bidder's maximum. We will never know what their max amount was. All we know for sure is your maximum was $360.
Next time, don't be afraid to type in your real max, it will only go up to that if it has to.
on 29-12-2015 10:11 AM
Some people will place a bid for the maximum amount they want to spend when they place their first bid. That way they don't have to keep going back to check and if they are outbid, then the item went for more than they wanted to pay. If the item has a starting price of say $100 and someone wants to pay a maximum of $400 for it, then anyone else who places a lower bid will automatically be outbid by that person. If the second bidder decides they want to pay $410 for it and put their maximum bid of $410 in, it will immediately outbid the first bidder and the price will jump to say $405. You can then see how much that first bidder was willing to pay as they have now been outbid.
If the first bidder places $400 and other bidders only bid up to $380 in the last few minutes, then the first bidder will win as they have placed the highest bid. Some people like to bid early, so they set and forget. Others like to wait until the last few minutes. If you are one that waits for the last few minutes, ALWAYS put in the maximum amount you want to pay. Often there isn't enough time to place a higher bid if it's close to the end.
on 29-12-2015 10:24 AM
and further to excellent advice already offered, if the winner of the item you wanted had bid $400.00 and the high bid was showing as $355 when you placed a bid of $400 in the last seconds then they win. First to place the bid always wins when identical high bids are placed.
Seasoned eBayers know to add a few cents to their high bid. If your highest bid would have been $400 had you known about eBay auto bidding then bid $400.65 or similar. That way you will win if the high bidder's maximum was $400.
on 01-04-2018 08:22 PM
I understand your position about bidding.
What I have noticed in the last six months is the high probability that sellers are unscrupulously raising bids for their own ware.
Cant imagine a person selling in a live auction wanting raise the bid by buying what they are selling.
Perhaps this is ebay bidding!!!
Stece
on 01-04-2018 08:31 PM
Dead thread. Why did you bother?
on 14-09-2019 11:17 AM
That is not true I place a bid yestreday at 3 seconds before it ended of $121.05 the previous bid at that time was $170 and I lost the bid to an automatic bit that was back dated 8 seconds before mine exactly $2.50 above mine.
IF a bid was placed 8 seconds before mine it would have been $2.5 above the $170.
The question is how did they know I would bid $121.05 8 seconds before I placed my bid to be $2.5 above my bid the exact amount Ebay rises at that price.
I beat their auto system and they back dated.
If that bid had been in I could have bid higher so the seller gets a lower price not a higher as Ebay says if just gives the auto bids preference.