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I received what I expected. was happy and went to leave feedback. There was no communication from the seller at all, despite them having a 5/5 score. Postage was free so I did not get a star rating to score them, but was very surprised to find I was not able to leave a score for communication. So if a seller does not communicate at all does that mean you can not score then and they will get  a100% score? That does not seem right or fair to me.

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Very true; in many cases more communication actually defeats the purpose.

 

eBay already communicate quite enough about a purchase.

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@zanadoo_56 wrote:

I've never been able to figure out the communication thing - it certainly has no correlation between whether the seller and buyer have communicated or not.

 

 


It's supposed to, but it doesn't surprise me if eBay doesn't always get it right:

 

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True, lol, but surely ebay should not take the vote away, 

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YOU have 5 stars for communication. Does that mean you communicate with every one of your buyers?

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Yes, everyone! I am not fast and efficient, but when I started on ebay was advised to always thank everyone for the sale etc, and always done so. I usually thank sellers when something has arrived too.

Gosh, I am guilty of being too chatty, hands up there, and I do not know typing so am slow, but I have made some good friends along the way, so I am happy. Most customers do reply too, but if they don't I do not mind.

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@justcruising49 wrote:

True, lol, but surely ebay should not take the vote away, 


Being able to judge rate a seller based on a subjective opinion is neither mandatory, nor a right, though. And what's more unfair - the fact that, occasionally, someone can't leave the stars they'd prefer to, or that occasionally, sellers get marked down for no reason other than that buyer defines communication within a more narrow spectrum than others. (ETA, which is basically a very passive way of saying "I didn't need it, but I'll mark you down for not giving it, anyway"). 

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@digital*ghost wrote:

Communication isn't just direct messages between buyer and seller - everything in a listing communicates something, the title, the photos, the description, the postage service and handling time, the return policy, and so on. Marking as shipped also communicates information.

If all the information required for a satisfactory purchase was comminicated this way, then 5 stars is appropriate, really. The seller will get an auto-5 if no additional communication was required two weeks prior to the sale, up until feedback was left, as long as they have a 0-1 day handling time and ship with tracking.


I found this an interesting post.

I'm not saying you're wrong. You're correct in that all those things do add up to a form of communication.

But I'd wager very few ebay buyers would think of most of those eg title of the ad etc when they see the word 'communication'.

 

I know some years back, I assumed communication meant messages eg if the seller responded to messages or sent a message. I also saw marking an item as shipped as part of the communication and still do, but that's a fairly 'recent' innovation-it wasn't there in the early days. Back then, messages were probably more important to let a buyer know an item was on its way.

 

I find that very few purchases these days require messages back & forth. If a seller marks an item as sent or uploads a tracking number then that's usually all the communication I need.

 

Occasionally I might need to ask a question before I bid & I expect a reasonably prompt answer (not immediately but within 24-48 hours I think is a fair expectation). That's communication but it doesn't necessarily make the transaction 'better' than one where there are no messages.

 

Marking the item as sent though does matter to me & if it isn't done, I'd be inclined to mark communication down a star.

 

It can be a confusing category though as years back, when there had been no messages etc with a purchase, I would think-how can I mark it as there was none, so I would tend to give it a 3 star, in the middle. Okay, maybe I have horrified regular sellers with the confession but it's what happens when people get confused.

 

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@springyzone wrote:

@digital*ghost

I'd wager very few ebay buyers would think of most of those eg title of the ad etc when they see the word 'communication'.

 

 

 


I know ๐Ÿ™‚ That's why I keep saying it whenever a thread like this pops up - this is actually one of the few eBay initiatives that makes perfect sense to me, because communication does not = conversation, though a conversation is certainly a form of communication, and my intention is not necessarily to change how other people think about it all the time, but to at least highlight the reasoning behind why eBay will award an auto-5 in those circumstances, since - without fail - most people will say it makes no sense. 

 

If you think about what reasons a buyer has for messaging a seller directly, thus starting a conversation, it is nearly always to gain information that is not available in a listing* - if a seller has eliminated the need to ask any questions, be it because the buyer only needs all the important, major details, or because the seller has paintakenly laid out every detail through images, description etc, provided a list of FAQs that answer most general questions (that they used to get messages about all the time, but now have it directly accessable, thus saving everyone time), then the information a buyer needs has been communicated to them in exactly the same way as it would have been through a message - with words and / or pictures. 

 

I have an additional blurb in my listings confirming that I combine postage, and explain what the postage discounts are and how to access them so that they apply automatically - I could wait until every buyer messages me to ask if I combine etc, (some still do, anyway), or I could make things a lot easier for most occasions by communicating that info without the need to message me  - a seller who provides these details doesn't really deserve low stars just because the buyer didn't have to go out of their way to ask about them. (I never get auto-5s, BTW, my handling time is too long and most orders don't ship with tracking, plus I did actually used to be one of those sellers that messaged every single buyer after a purchase - it wasn't something I could maintain after my sales increased, though). 

 

 

 

 

 

*I understand sometimes buyers message sellers for information that can't be in a listing, or is not practical to include, but the basic principle still applies in those scenarios, however I also know that some buyers just like messaging a seller for various non-sale related reasons; I'm more referring to circumstances where a buyer needs to contact a seller before they can / will buy. 

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I usually give 5 stars for everything if a sale went well. If I do need to ask a question, I still give 5 stars if the seller answers it.

I do feel sorry for sellers these days as I think so many buyers can be reluctant to give the full 5 stars, seeing 3 or 4 as signs of a good or average transaction, or else sometimes marking down postage because they think Aust Post prices are too high, whereas I think in most circumstances, sellers deserve 5 across the board.

Always hard with something subjective, I suppose.

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