scammer

[eastcoaststyling]

seller : sold me a fake iphone and i cannot communicate..

ebay wont refund me the $189 for the counterfeit purchase...

accumilates at least10 negative feedbacks a month and ebay deletes the negatives over a period of time...

watch and take note of member how the negatives disappear over a few weeks... alot of disappointed buyers...

if ebay didnt delete the negatives all the time i would never of bought anything from this seller.. so who is to blame???

[eastcoaststyling]

I was overseas for a period and seller promised to resolve the issue, but seller was slow to respond so dispute time had expired.. Mind you it took a few weeks to deliver from Melbourne as stated on listing to NSW..Scammed with false advertisement. 

The phone was for a 4 year old child to play with and google which is what i wanted so there is no itunes to play with..,
i was sold a phone with apple logo and it didn't work.
The contract was for a working goophone..I received a counterfeit apple logo phone that did not work.

I am a consumer to a registered Australian business, therefore i am entitled to a refund. ebay deletes the sellers negatives once a dispute has be complete.. so on average this seller has over 10 negatives in the last few weeks , currently 3 negatives last week 6, seller has beat the system.. do you think i would buy a electrical product if seller had over 100 negatives a year.. Well if ebay disclosed all the negatives about the seller i would not buy so i believe ebay is liable to some degree..

[*crikey*mate*]

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@eastcoaststyling wrote:

Your focus is on that '1''negative' along with ebay not liable for my type of payment. well, they're not.

'From what i can gather the reason why the negatives disappear, it is because buyers open disputes and after the disputes have been settled and money refunded to the buyer, ebay remove the listing which includes the negative feedbacks, I gather you are wrong.

so this seller will never have negatives, From what i have monitored from the seller  , buyers leave over 10+ negatives in a 30 day cycle that equates to 100 + a year of Negatives

So how was i to know i was buying a counterfeit phone that did not work carrying the Apple trademark from a seller with a 100+ a year of negatives that wasn't disclosed by ebay to it's members/buyers?. 

the price woulda caused me to go hmmmm

DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE I WOULD BUY A PRODUCT FROM A SELLER WITH 100+ NEGATIVES? 

I still struggle to believe that people don't know the User Agreement they signed when they joined.

If ebay DID NOT remove the negative feedbacks buyers don't buy from a bad seller equals less sales less fees less money ebay receives! 

hmmmm, ya really think that eBay would risk their entire business through dodgy operations?

So you believe a comsumer of a online company is not intitled to receive a refund because comsumer selected a different payment option?

It doesn't matter what I believe, not only is this the law, but there is plenty of information around explaining how to keep yourself safe when trading on line.

Additionally, because I know the site user Agreement, I also know that you are not entitled to a refund from eBay in this instance. Yes, you should get a refund, but not from eBay. and the way to get that refund was through ione of the safe payment methods.

May I ask if you have done anything to provide proof that the item you purchased is counterfeit/fake?

It don't matter what payment option i selected! Item was received over 20 days(listing stated shipped from Melbourne, fast dispatch) i complained to seller. Seller responding slowing then promising to take care of transaction. All the seller did was delay with unsatified customer and promised to offer refund and days go by dispute cannot be filed..Seller succeeded in what he set out to achive in the whole dealing..

The time frame is irrelevant when you pay for bank deposit - there is no buyer protection! The time frame is only relevant when you choose to pay through a safe p[ayment method and then utilize the protection.

The seller suceeded because you didn't know the rules.

It's that simple.

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so, before you buy again, from anywhere, know the rules, laws and policies that govern the site that you are using.

Best of luck with your future trading. I hope it goes more smoothly next time.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@eastcoaststyling wrote:

I was overseas for a period and seller promised to resolve the issue, but seller was slow to respond so dispute time had expired..

You paid by bank deposit, there was no "dispute timeZ"

Mind you it took a few weeks to deliver from Melbourne as stated on listing to NSW..Scammed with false advertisement. 

Sue them.

The phone was for a 4 year old child to play with and google which is what i wanted so there is no itunes to play with..,

I bought my kids a $30 phone from a B&M - does all that and they're not 4

i was sold a phone with apple logo and it didn't work.
The contract was for a working goophone..I received a counterfeit apple logo phone that did not work.

So, purue the relevant authorities for the sale of counterfeit goodas and online fraud,

I am a consumer to a registered Australian business, therefore i am entitled to a refund.

So, pursue it?

ebay deletes the sellers negatives once a dispute has be complete..

That's a pretty brash statement to make armed only with supposition and no proof.

so on average this seller has over 10 negatives in the last few weeks , currently 3 negatives last week 6, seller has beat the system.. do you think i would buy a electrical product if seller had over 100 negatives a year.. Well if ebay disclosed all the negatives about the seller i would not buy so i believe ebay is liable to some degree..

Then you believe wrong. Read the User Agreement and the terms that you agreed to when you joined the site.

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[eastcoaststyling]

I agree and i am aware of  the user agreement and that ebay doesn't except responsibility if buyer buys a counterfeit product.

That is part of a clause that ebay has ammended.

Ebay do not allow replicas, counterfeit items, or unauthorized copies to be listed on eBay.  

The seller has sold me a counterfeit with a trademark apple logo and i am no the only one that seller has sold too.

Ebay ignores buyers negatives that state fake product received and lets the seller continue to do business.

Fact: Ebay deletes the sellers negatives after a dispute has been finalised!

Therefore ebay has to take some responsibility for this particular transaction.

Everything about the sellers store and listings are misleading.

states dispatch Melbourne i received in 20 days, satisfaction for all buyers, nothing to that discription, return with 30 days seller would not allow me to do so. don't buy goophone with apple logo , i received apple logo. 

More aussies are getting taken for a ride with this seller day by day to say the least

If no deletion of negatives are conducted by ebay : A. I the buyer would stay away from the seller in question. B. the seller would not increase revenue for ebay. ( ebay receives all final value fees after a dispute has been finalised)

Lets say this item i purchased was $10,000 and i payed  bank deposit don't you think i would win in court over ebay?

Of course i would win hands down , but this is only small change and not worth a day in court!!!!!!!!!!!! 

I'm just trying to help the next aussie as i llive and earn that i have been scammed.......Case closed

[*crikey*mate*]

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@eastcoaststyling wrote:

I agree and i am aware of  the user agreement and that ebay doesn't except responsibility if buyer buys a counterfeit product.

That is part of a clause that ebay has ammended.

Why would they need to accept responsibility for such a transaction? They are not a party to the contract and they make it very clear that a seller is responsible for the c9ontent of their listing,

Ebay do not allow replicas, counterfeit items, or unauthorized copies to be listed on eBay.  

True, but as they are not authorized to establish the authenticity of products, they are not legalally able to make such accusations without proof.

The seller has sold me a counterfeit with a trademark apple logo and i am no the only one that seller has sold too.

Yes, so your issue is with the seller, the person with whom you have the contract,

Ebay ignores buyers negatives that state fake product received and lets the seller continue to do business.

Could it be because none of those people making those statements have taken the steps to verify that the items are counterfeit? Without verification from an authorized person, those claims are simply defamation and unsupported accusation. eBay is NOT in the business of identifying counterfeit items.

Fact: Ebay deletes the sellers negatives after a dispute has been finalised!

I still espouse that this is not why the negatives are removed. I posit that it is for unsupported accusations of a defamatory nature, foir which there is no established proof.

Therefore ebay has to take some responsibility for this particular transaction.

No. No they don't. Not without proof. None of which seems to have been supplied. For all eBay knows, you're a competitor running around trying to trash his business by making false statements.

If you want resolution, provide proof that an item is indeed counterfeit and then pursue resolution through the correct channels.

Everything about the sellers store and listings are misleading.Many disagree with you

states dispatch Melbourne i received in 20 days, satisfaction for all buyers, nothing to that discription, return with 30 days seller would not allow me to do so. don't buy goophone with apple logo , i received apple logo. 

More aussies are getting taken for a ride with this seller day by day to say the least

If no deletion of negatives are conducted by ebay : A. I the buyer would stay away from the seller in question. B. the seller would not increase revenue for ebay. ( ebay receives all final value fees after a dispute has been finalised)

Lets say this item i purchased was $10,000 and i payed  bank deposit don't you think i would win in court over ebay?

Of course i would win hands down , but this is only small change and not worth a day in court!!!!!!!!!!!! 

No, I don't think you would win, against the seller, perhaps, but not eBay with the information presented here.

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