Can someone identify this porcelain makers mark

[pats_treasures]

Can anone please identify this porcelain makers mark?

[twyngwyn]

can you take a clearer photo? What is that - bottom left?

[pats_treasures]

Thank you. Bottom left mark is just a dark blob, it is under the glaze so must have been there originally.

[siddieswans]

I really can't see this clearly. Top left =???? Top right = B? 8? Bottom right = L.

It the mark printed? Impressed? If you showed the item it may help.

[pats_treasures]

Photo of item.

[pats_treasures]

Photo of mark which is stamped and under the glaze.The dark blob is in the lower bottom left hand.

[siddieswans · Accepted solution]

Thanks much better.

Apparently the mark is HBL;  if you Google you can find several similar examples that have sold

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/victorian-pair-hand-painted-bohemian-281941264

says VICTORIAN PAIR of HAND-PAINTED 'VIOLET' BALUSTER VASES c.1890's ; Marks for HBL,a USA based importer of German/Bohemian wares of the period.

It would seem that these wares pre-dated the McKinley Tariff Act which took effect in  1891 which required country of origin to be marked. I have no idea about HBL; German / Bohemian seems logical, so late 1880's very early 1890's.

[pats_treasures · Accepted solution]

Thank you siddieswans for your. time and research which is much appreciated. Yes my vase is very similar to the ones in the link.Many thanks, Regards, Patricia

[bpturner1958]

Hello. I have a similar style vase with the same markings.  The Blob on the bottom left is a crown. Not sure if you have any more info about the markings but I am about to explore the net to see what I can find.  The vase belonged (i beleive) to my Great, Great Grandmother who lived 1856 to 1904.  She was of English heritage. 

[bpturner1958]

And the Vase