Help with Silver markings

I am trying to work out the exact meaning of these markings. It is made by W & H and have an idea of the meaning of the other marks but not 100% sure.

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Where are the hallmarks? UK hallmarking system requires each removable part to be hallmarked, so there should be matching hallmarks, at least date letters, on both parts. It is always possible that this might be a marriage. What is there that suggests Rugby Union - an inscription?

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A bloke standing on top holding a Rugby ball?

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It could be rugby league, not union.
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I will put some better photos up but i think you may be right regarding 2 different pieces. The fit is loose and the top is not the same quality from my eye and the outfit does not rally appear to be union but may be league or afl as they appear to have no sleaves.

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I am now thinking possibly afl.

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I have to say a very big thankyou as the top piece has actually been a distraction from what it really is. Which my guess is a Walker & Hall Sterling Silver Goblet from 1918.

Here is a link to a slightly older and small piece but looks to be identical design. 

 

http://www.lynzayantiques.com.au/display-product.php?bec=83d3KypQVMurSrZOLSu0NTQyNgEA&v=2835964394 

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You could well be right - the design looks the same. I assume your hallmarks are up near the goblet rim, like in the other example. So you need to look carefully at the top figural piece, inside and out, to see if there are any markings there. It would be unusual I would think if it was also sterling, the design as a whole (sitting on the goblet as a base) looks quite top heavy. Is the top piece hollow inside, possibly it originally sat on a timber or plastic base (depending on age). If the uniform is sleveless, I would be thinking AFL. Maybe quite a modern piece (the haircut seems to be quite long).

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May have been mounted on bakelite, as suggested earlier, but it's been broken?

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Hallmarks in the same position just mine is lightly larger at 22.5cm tall and weight of 350grams. The top may be Australian made, it has no markings is very thin but the man is solid and heavy at 250grams. It may have been repurposed onto the goblet due to damage or being seperated from the original base.I doubt they where ever meant to be together. 

 

I called someone regarding repairing the dents but it will be a fine line between what it is worth in scrap or current condition and what someone will want to pay. There is no real scratches or damage to the top or bottom edges its just a decent dent in the top and a few small ones in the base.  

 

My guess it will be best to give it a light clean and sell as is to someone who doesnt mind the imperfections but they can have them repaired later. 

 

I will do a photo later as the photo above was not mine and really makes it look unappealing.

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As you can see once the top was removed and changing the camera angle makes a few hundred dollars. Its like a treasure hunt and luckily it should have some value otherwise it would have been baked beans for dinner this week.

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