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on โ10-08-2015 05:37 PM
hi guys i have a plate i bought a few of a bloke on ebay ........to decorate a country kitchen well 2 have turn ont well i can find to much aa one is a RC& co with AUSTRALIA on it its dated about 1850 well the only one i can fin is a few shards in a museum we think its a artist veiw of the melb parliment house OR THE EXHABITION CENTRE any way has any one got any clues or ideas
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on โ10-08-2015 08:52 PM
Sorry Shane I don't think so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verreville_Glass_and_Pottery_Works,_Glasgow
suggests that the blue and white transfer ware pottery finished around 1859. So 20 years BEFORE the Sydney Palace Garden buildings. I just think that they were stylised ideas of buildings that might have been found in places with exotic names. Almost variations on the theme of the Willow pattern. Where potteries actually made designs that were copies of famous buildings or scenery, they usually actually gave that specific name to the pattern, rather than something general like Australia (or Syria). But that's just my guess.
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on โ10-08-2015 05:51 PM
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on โ10-08-2015 05:53 PM
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on โ10-08-2015 06:24 PM
Hi Shane Nice Plate. The maker is Robert Cochran & Co, Verreville Pottery, Glasgow. As I think you know. Date should be around 1850. If it's meant to be the Melbourne Parliament buildings they were partially finished in 1856, though parts were not completed until the 1880's.The classical colonnade and portico were not completed until 1892. The central building does not look anything like Melbourne Exhibition Building to me.
As http://repository.nms.ac.uk/329/1/329_-_Ceramic_Resource_Disk_9_-_Campbellfield.pdf
shows you, the pottery tended to use exotic names for its patterns - the edge design to me looks a bit Eastern Mosque like. I suppose it is possible that the centre decoration was based on a design for the Melbourne Parliament buildings but I would suggest that they just chose an exotic name (Australia) and put in some sort of design. There are a couple of Cochran "Syria" design items on eBay (1 active, one completed) and the design doesn't look like Syria to me.
Anyway I could be quite wrong; there may be an expert on Scottish transfer ware who could help; I would suggest you contact the Scottish Pottery web site
http://scottishpottery.weebly.com/west-coast-potteries-and-marks.html
and ask if they could suggest an expert who could give you more information.
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โ10-08-2015 08:11 PM - edited โ10-08-2015 08:13 PM
hey siddie ya are the best i found this image it could be this place mate if this was made latter maybe for the great syd exhabition this is the palace gardens in syd were the great exhabition was and this looks so much like the uter image ............
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on โ10-08-2015 08:52 PM
Sorry Shane I don't think so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verreville_Glass_and_Pottery_Works,_Glasgow
suggests that the blue and white transfer ware pottery finished around 1859. So 20 years BEFORE the Sydney Palace Garden buildings. I just think that they were stylised ideas of buildings that might have been found in places with exotic names. Almost variations on the theme of the Willow pattern. Where potteries actually made designs that were copies of famous buildings or scenery, they usually actually gave that specific name to the pattern, rather than something general like Australia (or Syria). But that's just my guess.
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on โ10-08-2015 09:06 PM
thanks mate there are a few all from te same time ad most are very unusual idead
thanks again siddie

