10.5% or 19%?

[davidc4430]

has anyone thought to ask the farmers who hire backpackers weather they prefer 10.5% or 19% after being informed of the repurcussions of one over the other?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-24/backpacker-tax-jacqui-lambie-exchange-with-nff/8055250

looks to me like someone with no farming experience is more interested in the farmers than the NFF.

NFF just going with the lib/nats as usual.

i often wonder just what the farming comunity gets for it blind support of the national party.

i'm hearing lots of complaints about the outback NBN coverage, you would think being half the govt the nationals would want the best possible NBN for it bush supporters not this unreliable EXPENSIVE carp they are getting.

[icyfroth]

I reckon the farmers are so reliant on the backpackers they'd go for anything to keep the them coming back every year.

I think the government is being stupid on this.

Unless they can get the chronically unemployed austalian youth to get out bed and go earn their keep even as fruit pickers, they need to help farmers employ seasonal workers from overseas to help with getting the harvest in. It's after all harvest that gets imported overseas and makes a lot of money for the exporters.

They're worried about money earned in this country going overseas. Really? I'm sure there'd be lots of other areas where big money is going overseas they could be concentrating on.

Why pick on the Backpackers and Farmers? Pretty sure the Backpackers are spending their money on tourism while they're over here.

[the_great_she_elephant]

I think it's also  worth mentioning that backpackers won't get the $18,000 tax free threshold that regular workers get, they will pay the tax on every dollar they earn.

[*tippy*toes*]

I did some cherry grading a few years back to earn a few extra bucks. Everyone had to fill out the pink tax form, even the overseas people. They told us to write whatever we liked on the form, but to use our real first name. They even told us to make up a tax file number. I think most farms would have done the same for the seasonale workers. I don't know if that cherry farm still does that, but I can't see any reason why they wouldn't be.

[davidc4430]

so there was good ol mister morrison on the evening news monday telling the world he was 'DA MAN!

then labor dumb ass es can go JUMP

so mr morrisin, whats dat on yur face?

LOOKS LIKE EGG MATE!

[icyfroth]

Erm...what?

Can you explain?

[davidc4430]

mr morrison was telling everyone the deal was done with the cross bench to get the backpackers bill through at 15% without needing any imput from labor.

unfortunately morrison cant count because one of his 'in the bag' senators wasnt 'in the bag' so the bill didnt get voted through.

i'm not saying it wont get up but it was funny that morrison was out being 'the guy who gets deals done' on monday to today be 'the guy who cant count' lol

glad hes the treasurer hey lol

funny the libs said they wouldnt drop below 19% but the deal that wasnt a deal was for 15%

i expect it will prolly drop again to get that one last vote. be really funny if the drop to something like 11% just so they can say well we didnt go to that crazy 10.5% labor was wanting lol

also today they got their union bashing bill through but from all i can gather its had so many cuts and changes it might as well not have even been put up.

[lyndal1838]

The ordinary Australian taxpayer who does not get the taxfree threshhold is paying $95 tax on a gross income of $400 so anything below 24% for seasonal workers is good value.

[davidc4430]

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@lyndal1838 wrote:

The ordinary Australian taxpayer who does not get the taxfree threshhold is paying $95 tax on a gross income of $400 so anything below 24% for seasonal workers is good value.

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i watched 'the drum' on abc tonight, seems backpackers just 'tick the box' saying they are residents of australia thus recieving the $18.000 tax free threshold. seems no one ever bothers to check up on this loophole. one of the panel members thought maybe something ought to be done about that so any new tax might actually work.

i tend to agree.

[lyndal1838]

I have to agree with that David, but on the other hand you can't blame them for trying to minimise the tax they are paying.

There is a heck of a difference between the tax free threshold and the non tax free threshold.

On the $400 I am quoting the rates are $9 and $95 a week.  At the end of the day, if they are in Australia long enough to do a tax return they will get most of their tax back when they need it least.

Instead of spending it in Australia while they are here they will take it out of the country when they go home.