on 18-07-2014 07:02 AM
http://www.thereporter.com.au/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-shot-down-over-ukrai/2322591/
DUTCH authorities have confirmed that 27 Australians were among the 295 on board the Malaysian Airlines flight MH17 which crashed overnight.
Anyone with concerns about friends or family, contact the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade on 1300 555 135
DFAT: 'Grave concerns' for Australians on board MH17
on 18-07-2014 07:40 AM
Hmmm, is it a coincidence it's malaysia airlines again?
on 18-07-2014 07:46 AM
@**what_would_bob_do** wrote:Hmmm, is it a coincidence it's malaysia airlines again?
Yes, I would say so. Unless the plane was badly off its course, then there is nothing that would connect this to the missing plane.
on 18-07-2014 08:03 AM
@***super_nova*** wrote:
@**what_would_bob_do** wrote:Hmmm, is it a coincidence it's malaysia airlines again?
Yes, I would say so. Unless the plane was badly off its course, then there is nothing that would connect this to the missing plan
Hundreds of airlines out there and I'm sure so many fly over similar area. What are the odds it's the same airline again.???I have a feeling Malaysian airline is going to lose a lot of customers whether it's a coincidence or not.
on 18-07-2014 08:12 AM
shocking news to wake up to this morning.
it would take some pretty sophisticated weapons to shoot down a plane cruising at some 30,000 odd thousand feet wouldn't it??
Russian weapons??
RIP to those on board
on 18-07-2014 08:18 AM
I grieve for all that are involved in the loss of lives.
I have been looking at news reports this morning. It is not clear what is wreckage from this plane or whether stock film footage is being used.
There is talk that parts are strewn over a 10 kilometre area.
There is talk of a ground to air missile attack. But the question is the actual range of such missiles.
There is a picture of a major section of an aircraft still burning on the ground.
To me it appears, that the tail section of the plane was hit. With the result that the plane dropped to the ground exploding on impact.
DEB
on 18-07-2014 08:28 AM
@**what_would_bob_do** wrote:Hundreds of airlines out there and I'm sure so many fly over similar area. What are the odds it's the same airline again.???
The odds are exactly the same for every plane flying through that area. That is the thing with odds, it has nothing to do with what happened before.
on 18-07-2014 08:45 AM
@**what_would_bob_do** wrote:Hmmm, is it a coincidence it's malaysia airlines again?
hmmm
YES.
the plane most likely mistaken for another
cargo plane, like the one shot down last month
by pro russian separatists - killing 49 ppl.
on 18-07-2014 09:01 AM
@**what_would_bob_do** wrote:Hmmm, is it a coincidence it's malaysia airlines again?
Bob I swear the first thing I thought when I heard the news was: "Malaysian Airlines again?"
on 18-07-2014 09:02 AM
@icyfroth wrote:
@**what_would_bob_do** wrote:Hmmm, is it a coincidence it's malaysia airlines again?
Bob I swear the first thing I thought when I heard the news was: "Malaysian Airlines again?"
They must have the worst luck if it's a coincidence. THis is enough to drive them out of business.
on 18-07-2014 09:03 AM
“Andrei Purgin, the self-styled first vice premier of the unrecognized Donetsk People's Republic, told Interfax the separatists do not have weapons that could shoot down a plane flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters.”
Yet a few days earlier the same source confirmed that they (the separatist) had capture a long range BOL surface to air missile system which has an effective operational range of 25 kilometres and they would be using it to enforce to establish a no fly zone.
Now add the following.
The reports state the passenger aircraft was travelling at it normal cruising altitude of 10 kilometres (10,000 metres). The effective reach of the BOL is 25,000 metre. That is two hand half time further than the height the aircraft was travelling.
The reports also state that separatist though the aircraft they were engaging was an AN 26. This aircraft has a maximum service ceiling of 7.5 kilometres. That is 2.5 kilometres lower than the altitude of the aircraft being engaged.
That is any competent operator would have immediately realised that the target being engaged could not possibly have been an AN 26
This is not a case of simple tragic accident. It is a case of the kind of tragic consequences which rise when you place sophisticated weapons systems in the hands of people not trained to use them.