5G phone network: Expert concerned by lack of understanding of potential health effects

[davidc4430]

5G phone network: Expert concerned by lack of understanding of potential health effects

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-18/5g-phone-network-expert-concerned-lack-understanding-effects/8...

here is an expert on the dangers of the 5G network.

[davewil1964]

But 4channel's expert was talking about 5g. Or maybe 4g. Or 3 or 2.

You need to realise that one 'expert', regardless of the 'expert's' field of study/relevance trumps any number of others who refute the 'expert's' conclusions.

[rogespeed]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

But 4channel's expert was talking about 5g. Or maybe 4g. Or 3 or 2.

You need to realise that one 'expert', regardless of the 'expert's' field of study/relevance trumps any number of others who refute the 'expert's' conclusions.

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Ah but there be something else to consider regarding how one uses a mobile phone within the realm of EMF

http://www.emfs.info/sources/appliances/mobile/

[4channel]

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@rogespeed wrote:

If there be crocodiles in the river , build a bridge over that river. - no use in resisting the flow of the river or wasting time trying to eradicate the crocs. 

Informed research and prudent action 

Maybe start here keeping in mind the ever present v.i factors - at one time the powers declared asbestos to be harmless 

http://www.emfs.info/sources/meters/smart/

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You know rogespeed, it's easy for some folks to attack or mock people who question the so-called official sanctioned version of things because they then don't have to face the unknown.

Good info on that link. Thanks for that.

I remember the dark days of asbestos and the people who spoke out in concern being mocked and shouted down. Now we know different but it's too late for many. Those who've lost loved ones, mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers to mesothelioma. So sad.

I also remember the people getting sick from pesticides and this is an issue that continues today.

Thank goodness some dentists today have woken up to the mercury issue and now use alternatives to amalgam.  I can't remember where I first read about it years ago, possibly Time or Newsweek (Is that mag still going?) .Anyway, dentists and assistants were committing suicide and getting very ill. Exposure due to the handling of mercury was suspected.

A bit about it the issue here at Dental Tribune .

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       Mobile phone cancer warning as malignant brain tumours double

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2018/05/02/mobile-phone-cancer-warning-malignant-brain-tumours-d...

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Maybe one day some folk will learn that questioning certain things is a healthy exercise.

Some people want convinience at any cost. I too like modern convinience but  not when it comes with the cost.

[4channel]

If there be crocodiles in the river , build a bridge over that river. - no use in resisting the flow of the river or wasting time trying to eradicate the crocs. 

Informed research and prudent action 

Maybe start here keeping in mind the ever present v.i factors - at one time the powers declared asbestos to be harmless 

http://www.emfs.info/sources/meters/smart/

[4channel]

Very sad case with a woman who lost her son due to exposure. Virginia Farver is her name.

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Take Back Your Power

Virginia Farver's story about her son Rich

Rich Farver 1979 to Oct 11th 2008

Her section is at - 1:02:34 to 1:06:33

https://vimeo.com/227169236

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Principia Scientific International
Petition: 26,000 Scientists Oppose 5G Roll Out

Published on January 29, 2019
Written by Arthur Firstenberg

Concerns about the upcoming launch of 5G radio telecommunications technology has prompted a mass petition against the move on safety grounds by thousands of scientists and related professionals.

https://principia-scientific.org/petition-26000-scientists-oppose-5g-roll-out/

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"The truth about mobile phone and wireless radiation" -- Dr Devra Davis

3,849,980 views
•Dec 3, 2015

The University of Melbourne
64.7K subscribers



"The truth about mobile phone and wireless radiation: what we know, what we need to find out, and what you can do now" Presented by Dr Devra Davis, Visiting Professor of Medicine at the Hebrew University Hadassah Medical School, and Visiting Professor of Medicine at Ondokuz Mayis University, Turkey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwyDCHf5iCY

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[*kazumi*]

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@4channel wrote:

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@*kazumi* wrote:

Does this means the 5g towers are already deploying their microchiped vaccine that Bill Gates created to enslave us all?

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LOL, I'm not sure what part of my post you are replying to. I doubt anyone with a sane mind would think 5G towers were deploying microcipped infused vaccines.

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The claim by antivaxers who also oppose the 5g, is that Bill gates wants everybody vaccinated because with vaccine they inject you with microchip, which is then controlled by the 5g and it will be used for control of the population. 

yes, you are right, in Australia, the handful of protesters who  protested against 5g, and COVID restrictions, did not mention Bill Gates, at least not as far they showed on the news. 

Sure lot of stuff is not good for us; it has always been that way.  Less than 100 years ago cities were shrouded in smog from burning coal and exhaust fumes, and dangeroues chemicals like DDT were used not just on our food but sprayed around suburbs for mosquito control. 

[4channel]

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@kazumi wrote:

The claim by antivaxers who also oppose the 5g, is that Bill gates wants everybody vaccinated because with vaccine they inject you with microchip, which is then controlled by the 5g and it will be used for control of the population.

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From what I've seen, read and having learnt from talking to others is the people who are protesting against  5G and mandatory vaccinations are doing so because they believe that they should have the right to decide about their own health and not have something forced upon them. People who protest regarding vaccinations are  made up of three types. They are .....

* People who oppose all vaccinations,

* People who believe in vaccinations but are selective about what vaccinations they or their children should have,

* People who believe in vaccinations but don't  want mandatory vaccinations.

Oh there's a 4th category,

* People who just don't want  mercury, aluminium or formaldehyde in the vaccinations.

For those few that go on about Gates etc., probably don't  trust him as he's raved on about the world being overpopulated etc..

Only a minority of people in the Anti Vaxx and Anti  5G mov'ts go on about  ..... " with vaccine they inject you with microchip, which is then controlled by the 5g and it will be used for control "

Vaccines are a big money spinner for big pharma. Most news nowadays is quite friendly to the big corps.

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@kazumi wrote:

yes, you are right, in Australia, the handful of protesters who protested against 5g, and COVID restrictions, did not mention Bill Gates, at least not as far they showed on the news.

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More  than a handful kazumi!  Or course most media in Australia and the West don't have the guts or integrity that they should. Many journalists value their jobs. As the saying goes, "Don't believe what the media tells you" or "Don't believe something doesn't exist because the media doesn't tell you".

A good documentary to watch is

Outfoxed • Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P74oHhU5MDk

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@kazumi wrote:

Sure lot of stuff is not good for us; it has always been that way. Less than 100 years ago cities were shrouded in smog from burning coal and exhaust fumes, and dangeroues chemicals like DDT were used not just on our food but sprayed around suburbs for mosquito control.

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Things that are bad for us shound't be around us and we shouldn't have harmful things forced on us just because someone's making a profit. There are actual good alternatives to  5G. I realise that mobile phones won't go away but there can be better placement of towers.

Did you see the section below?

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Take Back Your Power

Virginia Farver's story about her son Rich

Rich Farver 1979 to Oct 11th 2008

Her section is at - 1:02:34 to 1:06:33

https://vimeo.com/227169236

And a bit more on her story

 A Tribute to Rich Farver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiIIXSUvx1c

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Two questions here!

Does the well being of people have any value?

Where do we or rather, where should we draw the line with technology?

[bright.ton42]

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@4channel wrote:

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Two questions here!

Does the well being of people have any value?

Where do we or rather, where should we draw the line with technology?

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I can only answer your questions with another...

Who can   we believe?

[cezm]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

But 4channel's expert was talking about 5g. Or maybe 4g. Or 3 or 2.

You need to realise that one 'expert', regardless of the 'expert's' field of study/relevance trumps any number of others who refute the 'expert's' conclusions.

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Any 'expert' will do

https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/06/09/60-minutes-to-interview-scientist-peter-doherty-celebrity-ch...

[4channel]

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@4channel wrote:

Two questions here!
Does the well being of people have any value?
Where do we or rather, where should we draw the line with technology?

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

I can only answer your questions with another...

Who can we believe?

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Well, I assume you watched the clip about Rich Farver Here (1:02:30 to 1:06:33) who along with others died from exposure.  I would have thought it easy to answer a question about  the well being of people having a value.

You ask a question about who to believe? Well for many it's  .... Who it's more comfortable to believe. Could it be a case of .... Since they're allowed to do it then it must be right? And is it a case of ..... Since they're making money from it then it must be right. Because they wouldn't be rewarded with profit ottherwise?

Just wondering.

[jetho1680]

You don't require a degree in electronics or physics to understand that phone networks, 3, 4 or 5G are responsible for brain damage in people.

Evidence is easily found, spend a few hours in your local community and watch what is happening around you.

It was not too long ago that many people were able to perform the most simplest of tasks.

Some being, able to use a shopping trolley without crashing into a shelf or another person.

Go through a checkout without holding others up.

If you or another spoke to them you would receive an answer.

Walk along the footpath without walking into another person or a pole.

Stand on a railway platform without walking off it and falling onto the railway tracks.

Would look right left and right again when crossing a road.

Drive a car or truck without wandering all over the road and could see it was time to drive when when the traffic light turned green.

Meet with friends for coffee, lunch or dinner and engage in conversation with you.

and much much more.

The mobiles appeared and the dumbing down of the people began.