on 18-08-2017 04:11 PM
5G phone network: Expert concerned by lack of understanding of potential health effects
here is an expert on the dangers of the 5G network.
15-06-2020 02:45 AM - edited 15-06-2020 02:49 AM
Has been many instances where the public has been led to believe that something is safe and years later it has been discovered
to be a health problem, in some cases the deception has gone on for many years.
I don't recall anyone mentioning John Patterson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TiOx7_DVj0
https://emraustralia.com.au/blogs/news-1/inconvenient-truth-the-john-patterson-story
Phone tower locations can be found at
https://www.rfnsa.com.au/?first=1
5G was installed recently on the roof of a building two properties from a car park I frequently use.
I would park on the top floor, yet since the 5g went in the remote locking/unlocking for my car does not work.
If I park on a lower floor the remote works and because others have experienced the same problem I don't believe it is merely a coincidence, and I have stopped parking on the top floor.
on 15-06-2020 09:12 AM
@jetho1680 wrote:You don't require a degree in electronics or physics to understand that phone networks, 3, 4 or 5G are responsible for brain damage in people.
Evidence is easily found, spend a few hours in your local community and watch what is happening around you.
It was not too long ago that many people were able to perform the most simplest of tasks.
Some being, able to use a shopping trolley without crashing into a shelf or another person.
Go through a checkout without holding others up.
If you or another spoke to them you would receive an answer.
Walk along the footpath without walking into another person or a pole.
Stand on a railway platform without walking off it and falling onto the railway tracks.
Would look right left and right again when crossing a road.
Drive a car or truck without wandering all over the road and could see it was time to drive when when the traffic light turned green.
Meet with friends for coffee, lunch or dinner and engage in conversation with you.
and much much more.
The mobiles appeared and the dumbing down of the people began.
and flouride.......?
15-06-2020 02:11 PM - edited 15-06-2020 02:14 PM
@jetho1680 wrote:Has been many instances where the public has been led to believe that something is safe and years later it has been discovered
to be a health problem, in some cases the deception has gone on for many years.
I don't recall anyone mentioning John Patterson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TiOx7_DVj0
https://emraustralia.com.au/blogs/news-1/inconvenient-truth-the-john-patterson-story
Phone tower locations can be found at
https://www.rfnsa.com.au/?first=1
5G was installed recently on the roof of a building two properties from a car park I frequently use.
I would park on the top floor, yet since the 5g went in the remote locking/unlocking for my car does not work.
If I park on a lower floor the remote works and because others have experienced the same problem I don't believe it is merely a coincidence, and I have stopped parking on the top floor.
Wow! John Patterson, yeah I remember him. That brings back memories. Thanks jetho1680 for reminding us. That sure brings back memories. While I don''t support breaking the law, I can understand where he was coming from. He was just so concerned about the health implications related to EMF and this was his way of bringing attention to the issue. In spite of the shill and in-the-pocket scientists (reminds me of the tobacco defending scientists) and the media pathetic coverage on this issue, some scientists with integrity managed to make their voices heard. They backed up Patterson's concerns.
WIth things like the car remote lock being interfered with, gosh what about the complex nature of the human nervous and cellular make-up?
@rogespeed wrote:
and flouride.......?
Yeah, good mention rogespeed. A toxin known to affect people's attention. No permission asked if they could dump it in our water. The SMH has an article about it here!
I know that Aust was buying fluoride (industrial waste) from China. With what's going on now, I wonder if that will continue?
on 16-06-2020 09:10 PM
@davidc4430 wrote:5G phone network: Expert concerned by lack of understanding of potential health effects
here is an expert on the dangers of the 5G network.
Something about 5G tonight on SBS. Not sure if Dateline at 9:30 or The Feed at 10.
I hope they'll present it fairly and not paint people who oppose 5G as loony conspiracy theorists. The truth be known, most people opposing 5G oppose it because of the health issues from EMF and radiation etc. I hope they won't stoop to portraying protesters and concerned folk as only going on about the link between Corona virus like 5G that other media outlets are pumping out.
We'll see.
on 16-06-2020 09:44 PM
you mean this John Patterson ? Elite telecommunications engineer
on 16-06-2020 10:59 PM
As i said - one 'expert'
Here's another one, which seems to backed up by evidence.
The frequencies used for 5G are part of the radio frequency spectrum which, for decades, has been extensively researched in terms of health impacts. Over 50 years of scientific research has already been conducted into the possible health effects of the radio signals used for mobile phones, base stations and other wireless services. This research includes the frequencies planned for 5G and mmWave exposures.
The data from this research has been analysed by many expert review groups. Weighing the whole body of science, there is no evidence to convince experts that exposure below the guidelines set by the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP) carries any known health risks, for adults or children. The safety standard in Australia is based on these guidelines.
There is also an extensive, readily accessible database, EMF-Portal (https://www.emf-portal.org/en) of scientific research into the effects of EME, including studies on the effects of radio frequency (RF) on health. It is managed by the RWTH Aachen University, Germany and linked from the World Health Organization (WHO) website.
In terms of research specifically into 5G frequencies, the database lists approximately 350 studies on mmWave EME health related research. Extensive research on mmWave and health has been conducted on radar, microwave and military applications.
https://www.telstra.com.au/consumer-advice/eme/5g-and-eme
Please note the link to OBJECTIVE research.
on 16-06-2020 11:04 PM
@rogespeed wrote:you mean this John Patterson ? Elite telecommunications engineer
That seems to be an objective report. Especially the fact that it is dated 2010 when 5g wasn't even a twinkle in any telco's eye.
Not to mention the sidebars.
17-06-2020 12:24 AM - edited 17-06-2020 12:28 AM
@davewil1964 wrote:As i said - one 'expert'
Here's another one, which seems to backed up by evidence.
The frequencies used for 5G are part of the radio frequency spectrum which, for decades, has been extensively researched in terms of health impacts. Over 50 years of scientific research has already been conducted into the possible health effects of the radio signals used for mobile phones, base stations and other wireless services. This research includes the frequencies planned for 5G and mmWave exposures.
The data from this research has been analysed by many expert review groups. Weighing the whole body of science, there is no evidence to convince experts that exposure below the guidelines set by the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP) carries any known health risks, for adults or children. The safety standard in Australia is based on these guidelines.
There is also an extensive, readily accessible database, EMF-Portal (https://www.emf-portal.org/en) of scientific research into the effects of EME, including studies on the effects of radio frequency (RF) on health. It is managed by the RWTH Aachen University, Germany and linked from the World Health Organization (WHO) website.
In terms of research specifically into 5G frequencies, the database lists approximately 350 studies on mmWave EME health related research. Extensive research on mmWave and health has been conducted on radar, microwave and military applications.
https://www.telstra.com.au/consumer-advice/eme/5g-and-eme
Please note the link to OBJECTIVE research.
yes no worries " Radiation of 1800 MHz also induced damage in mouse immortalized germ cells and spermatozoa in vitro Exposure to 1800 MHz RF has been reported to induce oxidative damage in mitochondrial DNA and the cellular functions of cultured human neurogenic cells and lens epithelial cells"
on 17-06-2020 12:26 AM
@davewil1964 wrote:
@rogespeed wrote:you mean this John Patterson ? Elite telecommunications engineer
That seems to be an objective report. Especially the fact that it is dated 2010 when 5g wasn't even a twinkle in any telco's eye.
Not to mention the sidebars.
You can make some money by leasing your front yard for a 5G mini tower
on 17-06-2020 09:21 AM
I just went back and read some of the comments on the YT page jetho posted the link to
He is a lying dip**bleep**. Theres people that are around these towers all day long much more than him that have no health problems at all. This guy is a f***** liarYeah and they put one up by a school and 10 kids got brain tumors. Why don't you go inside a life size mircorwave and turn it on. Are you too stupid to know how this works? The guy that did this was the highest level telecom engineer who helped work on the project. But he's a dip**bleep**? You're just a lost idiot who can't admit that this technology is dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TiOx7_DVj0
The first comment above seems quitte passionate. The reply is understandable.
Marney Cohen
2 months ago
From a Tech named Ian:
The radio frequency that our towers currently emit is non ionizing radiation with a long footprint over the ground, so it is able to dissipate and spread out.
It is currently being broadcast anywhere from 1.5 to 2.5 /2.8 megahertz [MHz]
The symbol for megahertz is MHz. The base unit for a megahertz is the hertz and the prefix is mega.
The prefix mega is derived from the Greek megas meaning great is is symbolized as M. Mega denotes a factor of a million (10 6) which means that there are 1,000,000 hertz in a megahertz.
If you take the radio frequency close it super heats the water molecules in your brain, eyes and testicles. You can become sterile. It’s a very real and can make people have splitting headaches for days. This is coming from someone who climbs towers and he said he cooked the top of his scull and that was short range at a relatively low power and left him useless for the rest of the day.
The way 5G is going to work is it is going to broadcast in gigahertz [1 GHz = 1000 MHz] For example they are estimating around 30+ GHz and that will be 15,000 times stronger to what is being pushed out now. This is going to go at a much steeper peek, it going to be broadcast straight to the ground and going to hit more receivers and then transmit outwards.
The plan is to install these small cells on billboards, streetlights, sides of buildings, corners of offices, hallways of apartment complexes so that they can get lighting fast speeds.
Here is the concern the RF’s that have been broadcasting isn’t really damaging to us though we can’t tell the long term effects but because it dissipates over distance and its not a concentrated thing that the RF that’s being broadcast now has a really long wave trough so even when your hit with it your not absorbing a lot. The workers who work close range eat it but you don’t feel it down off the tower.
It’s not going to be that way with 5G, its going be in the corner of your office [they are talking about putting a 38 band Monoband antenna]in the back of every car so they can talk to each other and self drive.
5G its wave form is much tighter 4g, 3g, 2g have fairly long wave troughs to reach distances from the towers. 5g is going to be broadcast in millimeter waves with closer wave troughs so when it hits we are going to get blasted. So instead of coming from towers that takes longer a longer time to reach, it will be much closer coming from the corners of offices, etc.
This will directly effect the cellular membranes of people, the bonds that hold your cells together, its going to be right in your face, its going to be behind your seat in your car not to mention what its going to do to our brains, eyes, or any other part of our bodies. There will be super heating that RF will be giving off at such close range but because it is so powerful, so compact and tightly beamed it will actually break down the bonds that hold your cells together and that is how you get tumors.
Its too late people have trillions of dollars tied up in this 5G technology just so everyone can scroll at the speed of light. Nobody cares not even the techs that install this technology they do it for the money, they can’t stop it either when our leaders sign bills to go ahead, Trump just signed the 5G bill March 23, 2020. Pregnant women and their fetus will be harmed with this technology. All of us will be harmed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TiOx7_DVj0
The one above is quite scarey.