on 18-08-2017 04:11 PM
5G phone network: Expert concerned by lack of understanding of potential health effects
here is an expert on the dangers of the 5G network.
on 17-06-2020 10:55 AM
Is a bit like voicing concerns about the introduction of the motor car circa 1900
The best an individual can do is consider ones self having a personal sensitivity - an accepted condition - and so set about reducing exposure levels without censure.
Start wilth sleep time - you can purchase grounded RF blocking netting that looks like mosquito netting over ones bed - at least a nominal 8 hours RF free
EMF blocking grounded paint on walls where dirty AC wiring is located
RF meter for proposed 5G frequencies >80Ghz are not readily available yet to my knowledge , but when are, a useful tool to survey ones living and work space
Is the convergence of RF waves into a hot spot that will be a greater worry
17-06-2020 11:02 AM - edited 17-06-2020 11:03 AM
@4channel wrote:
I just went back and read some of the comments on the YT page jetho posted the link to
He is a lying dip**bleep**. Theres people that are around these towers all day long much more than him that have no health problems at all. This guy is a f***** liarYeah and they put one up by a school and 10 kids got brain tumors. Why don't you go inside a life size mircorwave and turn it on. Are you too stupid to know how this works? The guy that did this was the highest level telecom engineer who helped work on the project. But he's a dip**bleep**? You're just a lost idiot who can't admit that this technology is dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TiOx7_DVj0
The first comment above seems quitte passionate. The reply is understandable.
Marney Cohen
2 months ago
From a Tech named Ian:
The radio frequency that our towers currently emit is non ionizing radiation with a long footprint over the ground, so it is able to dissipate and spread out.
It is currently being broadcast anywhere from 1.5 to 2.5 /2.8 megahertz [MHz]
The symbol for megahertz is MHz. The base unit for a megahertz is the hertz and the prefix is mega.
The prefix mega is derived from the Greek megas meaning great is is symbolized as M. Mega denotes a factor of a million (10 6) which means that there are 1,000,000 hertz in a megahertz.
If you take the radio frequency close it super heats the water molecules in your brain, eyes and testicles. You can become sterile. It’s a very real and can make people have splitting headaches for days. This is coming from someone who climbs towers and he said he cooked the top of his scull and that was short range at a relatively low power and left him useless for the rest of the day.
The way 5G is going to work is it is going to broadcast in gigahertz [1 GHz = 1000 MHz] For example they are estimating around 30+ GHz and that will be 15,000 times stronger to what is being pushed out now. This is going to go at a much steeper peek, it going to be broadcast straight to the ground and going to hit more receivers and then transmit outwards.
The plan is to install these small cells on billboards, streetlights, sides of buildings, corners of offices, hallways of apartment complexes so that they can get lighting fast speeds.
Here is the concern the RF’s that have been broadcasting isn’t really damaging to us though we can’t tell the long term effects but because it dissipates over distance and its not a concentrated thing that the RF that’s being broadcast now has a really long wave trough so even when your hit with it your not absorbing a lot. The workers who work close range eat it but you don’t feel it down off the tower.
It’s not going to be that way with 5G, its going be in the corner of your office [they are talking about putting a 38 band Monoband antenna]in the back of every car so they can talk to each other and self drive.
5G its wave form is much tighter 4g, 3g, 2g have fairly long wave troughs to reach distances from the towers. 5g is going to be broadcast in millimeter waves with closer wave troughs so when it hits we are going to get blasted. So instead of coming from towers that takes longer a longer time to reach, it will be much closer coming from the corners of offices, etc.
This will directly effect the cellular membranes of people, the bonds that hold your cells together, its going to be right in your face, its going to be behind your seat in your car not to mention what its going to do to our brains, eyes, or any other part of our bodies. There will be super heating that RF will be giving off at such close range but because it is so powerful, so compact and tightly beamed it will actually break down the bonds that hold your cells together and that is how you get tumors.
Its too late people have trillions of dollars tied up in this 5G technology just so everyone can scroll at the speed of light. Nobody cares not even the techs that install this technology they do it for the money, they can’t stop it either when our leaders sign bills to go ahead, Trump just signed the 5G bill March 23, 2020. Pregnant women and their fetus will be harmed with this technology. All of us will be harmed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TiOx7_DVj0
The one above is quite scarey.
The point is that computers can " scroll at the speed of light " , 5G will enable universal people support efficiently controlled by computers , i suppose 1 virtual computer for each person in pro-active support , an alter ego , shadow buddy , super robo-mate
17-06-2020 03:03 PM - edited 17-06-2020 03:04 PM
At some stage the "experts" claimed that Roundup/Glyphosate was safe.
The company claimed it was "safer than table salt" until it was made known that some test results were fraudulent and covered up for 35 or 40+ years.
Lead based paint, , the same for leaded petrol, both safe until they were declared a health problem.
Asbestos, another "safe" product, along with the thousands of other products, including medications that were deemed safe by experts, while falsified or half hearted studies, lies and cover ups were harming and killing people.
I will continue to remain skeptical and cautious and continue to limit the use of my mobile.
on 17-06-2020 05:15 PM
@jetho1680 wrote:At some stage the "experts" claimed that Roundup/Glyphosate was safe.
The company claimed it was "safer than table salt" until it was made known that some test results were fraudulent and covered up for 35 or 40+ years.
Lead based paint, , the same for leaded petrol, both safe until they were declared a health problem.
Asbestos, another "safe" product, along with the thousands of other products, including medications that were deemed safe by experts, while falsified or half hearted studies, lies and cover ups were harming and killing people.
I will continue to remain skeptical and cautious and continue to limit the use of my mobile.
Ever wondered what keeps the water ways clear of excessive vegetation , the source of drinking water for so many - that is safe as well...
on 18-06-2020 07:32 AM
@jetho wrote:At some stage the "experts" claimed that Roundup/Glyphosate was safe.
The company claimed it was "safer than table salt" until it was made known that some test results were fraudulent and covered up for 35 or 40+ years.
Lead based paint, , the same for leaded petrol, both safe until they were declared a health problem.
Asbestos, another "safe" product, along with the thousands of other products, including medications that were deemed safe by experts, while falsified or half hearted studies, lies and cover ups were harming and killing people.
I will continue to remain skeptical and cautious and continue to limit the use of my mobile.
Yes jetho, I remeember the claims and reading historical accounts of the safety claims for Roundup, lead and asbestos. When too many sick and dead people became obvioius and it was too hard to continue the covering up and too hard for main stream media to ignore, the lies were exposed! Lies is what they were! Sadly for the people that dies and the hurt and grieving families, it came too litte to late.With so many accounts of cancer clusters health issues for people who have resided or worked around cell towers, what are we being fed? Truth or lies?
@rogespeed wrote:
Ever wondered what keeps the water ways clear of excessive vegetation , the source of drinking water for so many - that is safe as well...
Yes, harmful chemicals find theiir way iinto out water systems.
BTW: I saw a documentary once about Fluoride. The source of it was coming presumably on one side from a pipe feeding info the river. The fish preferred swimming on the other side. I've also heard accounts of domestic animals drinking water from other places rather than the dish that their master has filled from the tap.
on 18-06-2020 10:55 AM
18-06-2020 12:01 PM - edited 18-06-2020 12:02 PM
@go-tazz wrote:In Aus:
https://www.science.org.au/curious/people-medicine/whats-deal-fluoride
Anyone who believes fluoride is safe is either a fool or someone who has been fooled. Many things on the official level backed up by so called science have been presented in a way to protect the agenda that is at hand.
The day I would believe that everything that supports a government's agenda with supposed scientific fact is the day I'll believe that the earth is flat.
In America many people believe that corruption has seeped into the FDA. Do I think that's the case?? Well IMO it's either a an incompetent organisation at some levels, or the suspicions of Americans have foundation.
Having a complete belief that everything told to you is safe being true and you do so at your own peril.
on 18-06-2020 05:13 PM
@4channel wrote:
Anyone who believes fluoride is safe is either a fool or someone who has been fooled. Many things on the official level backed up by so called science have been presented in a way to protect the agenda that is at hand.
So you missed the part that Aus uses much lower levels so you need to find links for Aus and not the rest of
the wold as you normally do.
Experts have determined that fluoride should be present in a recommended range of 0.6 to 1.1 mg/L for optimal dental health outcomes. The amount of fluoride added depends on the fluoride levels that naturally occur in a given water supply and average temperatures in the region. In some regions of Australia, fluoride already naturally occurs in this recommended range. However, 89 per cent of Australia does add extra fluoride to drinking water to boost the level into that recommended range. It’s a practice that has been occurring for decades, with the added fluoride identical to any naturally occurring fluoride ions.
A small number of studies that do point to health problems are from places with fluoridation levels up to five times greater than Australia. They’re also generally low-quality studies that fail to control for confounding factors. For example, a recent observational study linked fluoride intake during pregnancy to lower IQ of boys, but not girls. In addition to this unexplained sex-specific finding, this study does not show cause-and-effect and critics have questioned the statistical methods used. More robust research is needed; but for now, the NHMRC has collated the best evidence we have in their systematic review and not found any reliable links.
The day I would believe that everything that supports a government's agenda with supposed scientific fact is the day I'll believe that the earth is flat.
In America many people believe that corruption has seeped into the FDA. Do I think that's the case?? Well IMO it's either a an incompetent organisation at some levels, or the suspicions of Americans have foundation.
The US has people paranoid about every part of the Government and will find someone that supports that.
Having a complete belief that everything told to you is safe being true and you do so at your own peril
Having a complete belief that everything told to you is false can be damaging to you health.
on 19-06-2020 09:23 PM
@go-tazz wrote:
@4channel wrote:Anyone who believes fluoride is safe is either a fool or someone who has been fooled. Many things on the official level backed up by so called science have been presented in a way to protect the agenda that is at hand.
So you missed the part that Aus uses much lower levels so you need to find links for Aus and not the rest of
the wold as you normally do.
Experts have determined that fluoride should be present in a recommended range of 0.6 to 1.1 mg/L for optimal dental health outcomes. The amount of fluoride added depends on the fluoride levels that naturally occur in a given water supply and average temperatures in the region. In some regions of Australia, fluoride already naturally occurs in this recommended range. However, 89 per cent of Australia does add extra fluoride to drinking water to boost the level into that recommended range. It’s a practice that has been occurring for decades, with the added fluoride identical to any naturally occurring fluoride ions.
A small number of studies that do point to health problems are from places with fluoridation levels up to five times greater than Australia. They’re also generally low-quality studies that fail to control for confounding factors. For example, a recent observational study linked fluoride intake during pregnancy to lower IQ of boys, but not girls. In addition to this unexplained sex-specific finding, this study does not show cause-and-effect and critics have questioned the statistical methods used. More robust research is needed; but for now, the NHMRC has collated the best evidence we have in their systematic review and not found any reliable links.
The day I would believe that everything that supports a government's agenda with supposed scientific fact is the day I'll believe that the earth is flat.
In America many people believe that corruption has seeped into the FDA. Do I think that's the case?? Well IMO it's either a an incompetent organisation at some levels, or the suspicions of Americans have foundation.
The US has people paranoid about every part of the Government and will find someone that supports that.
Having a complete belief that everything told to you is safe being true and you do so at your own peril
Having a complete belief that everything told to you is false can be damaging to you health.
Go with the flow
on 19-06-2020 11:58 PM