on 09-02-2014 10:54 AM
Is this really necessary given that it is a criminal matter?
Like how much does a Royal Commission cost? $400million? $600million?
And why is it that the Liberal Party are forever making the excuse that the 'public' have concerns and this is the reason they have to do something? ("Senator Brandis confirmed...it would be "irresponsible for the government not to respond in an appropriate way" to public concerns."). What concerns? I think the public is more concerned about the secrecy regarding the governments handling of the asylum seekers yet they don't think THOSE public concerns are important.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/royal-commission-into-union-corruption-confirm...
on 09-02-2014 12:32 PM
@icyfroth wrote:"A Royal Commission into Union corruption? Why?"
Possibly for the same reason we need an "independent investigation" into the conduct of the Australian Navy in light of the recent burnt hands debacle.
froth, so you agree that we need an independent investigation into the conduct of the australian navy and claims made by asylum seekers, excellent.
on 09-02-2014 12:34 PM
@spotweldersfriend wrote:
Well they are the party of the 50's after all.
yes but without the stylish clothes.
on 09-02-2014 01:05 PM
on 09-02-2014 01:09 PM
@punch*drunk wrote:The unions should be welcoming the Royal Commission. If, like they claim, there is no corruption, they have nothing to fear and it will put an end to the speculation and rumours that abound re using bikies as standover men, taking bribes etc.
Or is this about something else?
rumours will always abound, surely the oppositions proposal would be a lot cheaper - after all the slogan in a suit PM keeps telling us there's no money in the kitty.
on 09-02-2014 01:12 PM
@punch*drunk wrote:The unions should be welcoming the Royal Commission. If, like they claim, there is no corruption, they have nothing to fear and it will put an end to the speculation and rumours that abound re using bikies as standover men, taking bribes etc.
Or is this about something else?
It's about constantly linking unions with corruption and criminality to instill the belief that all union people, therefore all Labor people, are not to be trusted criminals.
on 09-02-2014 01:23 PM
on 09-02-2014 01:29 PM
@freakiness wrote:
@punch*drunk wrote:The unions should be welcoming the Royal Commission. If, like they claim, there is no corruption, they have nothing to fear and it will put an end to the speculation and rumours that abound re using bikies as standover men, taking bribes etc.
Or is this about something else?
It's about constantly linking unions with corruption and criminality to instill the belief that all union people, therefore all Labor people, are not to be trusted criminals.
But if none of thats true then the result will be a win for the unions.....wont it?
on 09-02-2014 01:32 PM
@spotweldersfriend wrote:
I sincerely hope they call a Royal Commission to investigate the need for so many Royal Commissions.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahah
punchdrunk, I think below clearly explains why a royal commission into so called union corruption is unnecessary and a waste of money.........
When is it appropriate to establish a royal commission?
Although established by the Executive, a fundamental characteristic of a royal commission is the independence of the inquiry from the government. This is important to ensure public confidence in such investigations, particularly when the inquiry involves maladministration of the government.
However, given the continuing popularity of royal commissions as a response to a variety of issues in Australia, it is a matter of concern that the legitimacy of such inquiries may diminish if royal commissions are established too frequently. To maintain the legitimacy and authority of royal commissions, there must be a clear distinction between cases where royal commissions will be preferable and those where other forms of official inquiry might be more suitable. Royal commissions are always expensive, as is demonstrated by the commitment to the Royal Commission in this year's Budget. It is clear that royal commissions should only be convened to address issues of extremely substantial public importance, where no lesser form of public inquiry would be appropriate. The extensive powers under the Act exist to enable the investigation of particularly serious issues that cannot suitably be investigated by another mechanism and these need to be recognised to justify the high costs involved.
on 09-02-2014 01:34 PM
@punch*drunk wrote:
@freakiness wrote:
@punch*drunk wrote:The unions should be welcoming the Royal Commission. If, like they claim, there is no corruption, they have nothing to fear and it will put an end to the speculation and rumours that abound re using bikies as standover men, taking bribes etc.
Or is this about something else?
It's about constantly linking unions with corruption and criminality to instill the belief that all union people, therefore all Labor people, are not to be trusted criminals.
But if none of thats true then the result will be a win for the unions.....wont it?
No it won't because it's about perceptions not fact.
If people keep hearing every day that the unions and all union people are corrupt they believe it. The findings of the Royal Commission won't erase all the mud that's been smeared along the way.
The Rupochracy will report anti union messages regardess of the actual hearing events and will blame other factors and call the commission a toothlesss tiger when ever union people are cleared of wrong doing.
on 09-02-2014 01:36 PM