ABC doesn't believe in Right to free speech

[nero_bolt]

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THE left, be they from the ALP or the ABC, oppose free speech when it is their ideology which is under scrutiny. 

That's why there was a sustained outbreak of clamorous opposition to Senator Cory Bernardi's middle-of-the-road discussion of cultural values last week.

The South Australian Senator broke two of the rules laid down by the left.

He asked why no discussion of abortion is permitted in Australia though there are anything from 70,000 to 100,000 abortions carried out in this country each year, according to evidence given in Senate estimates - and he questioned whether single-parent families are the golden standard for child rearing.

Under leftist dogma, abortion, or the more politically correct euphemism, termination, should only be discussed by women. Then, using the usual distortions of the language which have seen homosexuals insist that they be called gays and that the descriptive noun marriage be corrupted to include same sex unions, the so-called progressives say they are in favour of a pro-choice policy on abortion which means in fact that women are rarely presented with any options, in effect - no-choice.

By breaking these taboos, Senator Bernardi aroused the slumberous feminist lobby, few of whom it would seem have actually read his book, The Conservative Revolution, which was published almost a month ago and has been reviewed in numerous forums.

Senator Bernardi does not hide behind weasel words.

He is so plain spoken that most of the commentators who have attacked him have revealed their ignorance of his writings or have taken his words totally out of context.

He believes in the battle of ideas and thinks it is important for politicians to stand up for what they believe in. Indeed, he believes it's the right and responsibility of every member of the parliament to engage in the battle of ideas.

"It's absolutely critical that politicians are prepared to discuss ideas that are controversial," he told me.

"Otherwise we are stuck with a tyranny of political correctness. That's a stifling doctrine we need to rebel against in this country - that's the revolution I am calling for."

The Senator understands that abortion is an emotive topic, he understands - as most people do - that it can cause enormous stress and anguish, but he is also concerned that one in five pregnancies in this country are being terminated and believes that should be a cause for concern and debate.

He has not said we should outlaw or prohibit abortion but that was certainly the insinuation made by his critics.

His position on abortion is exactly the same as that as that held by former US president Bill Clinton - that it "should not only be safe and legal, it should be rare".

Last January, in his State of the Union address, President Barack Obama echoed president Clinton's remarks saying: "Today and every day, my administration continues our efforts to reduce unintended pregnancies, support maternal and child health, and minimise the need for abortion."

That view is also held by Prime Minister Tony Abbott, whom the members of the ALP and some commentators from the ABC have attempted to link to extreme anti-abortion views on numerous occasions when they attempt to drag his personal and private religious views into the political debate.

Senator Bernardi was also attacked by ABC breakfast presenter Beverley O'Connor for mentioning single-parent families in his book.

She framed her question: "The book really rails against non-traditional families; children within a gay relationship, children of marriage breakdowns. In 2014 now, this is a fact of life, this is not necessarily a fact that families want but it's a fact of life isn't it?"

In defence of traditional families, Senator Bernardi had written: "Why then the levels of criminality among boys and promiscuity among girls who are brought up in single-parent families, more often than not headed by a single mother?"

Had O'Connor wished to put the argument in an intelligent context, she might have noted that there was a footnote in the book which referenced a New York Time article on a Father's Day address delivered by President Obama which said: "We know the statistics - that children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime.

"Nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison.

"They are more likely to have behavioural problems, or run away from home, or become teenage parents themselves. And the foundation of our community is weaker because of it".

O'Connor's approach to the Bernardi book exemplifies the arrant hypocrisy taken by so many at the ABC when they are wittingly or subconsciously taking up the cudgels for the left and Labor against conservative figures.

They so obviously inject and infect their interviews and assaults with their own personal political prejudices.

While O'Connor may not like the mainstream moral compass which has served society well for millennia, she and other critics should note that on these issues, Senator Bernardi is actually in excellent company.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/abc-doesnt-believe-in-right-to-free-speech/story-fni0c...

[polocross58]

Nero, in response to your question, ' What about late-term abortion ? ',  my response is to say that it's murder.  Because it is, isn't it ?  It's foul.  And maybe those who seek later-term abortion should be forced to watch from the nether end

It's beyond dispute that try as they may to be two parents, single-mothers are up against it financially and otherwise and their children miss out on a lot

What's the source of ALL this grief, in most instances ?    Men

Men need to tie a knot in it if they're not prepared to be fathers to the children they're so eager to stick into women's wombs

Let's educate boys and men.  Let them be held to the spot at the action end of abortion

After all, no irresponsibly ejected sperm =  no abortions, no fatherless children suffering life-long depression and feelings of rejection

And women need to wake up to themselves too.  All over this an other countries are kids who will never know their biological father.   Entire libraries could be written about the repercussions of that

But again .... no sperm = no pregnancy

So it's time sex education focused on boys and men

and time society stopped wasting its time on junk tv and began to deal with the emasculation of males, caused in large part by unemloyment and the fact they were raised in single-parent homes ..... and ensured men understand that impregnating females, zipping up and walking away is not 'manhood'.   It's misogyny.  It's rank.  It's the very opposite of 'manhood'

Time also that men were made to understand that when it's all cut and diced, men are actually B-grade women.  Yep.  That p.e.n.i.s.  they're so proud of and can't keep their mind or hands off is actually a prolapsed uterus.  Those testes they love as if they were children are actually men's external ovaries.   And they got the nipples for free because Nature was frazzled that day and said, ' Oh, to hell with it '

All men commence as females.  The female is the default mode

Not sure how middle-eastern men are going to adjust to these undeniable facts, but they're going to have to do so if they have any hope of climbing out of the jungle

In the meantime, Aussie men need to cut it out.  It's been going on way too long, this dumping their seed all over the place and 'feeling the powah'  in leaving some poor girl pregnant.  If she decides on abortion, the idiot-male isn't there holding her hand as their child is destroyed

And if she decides to keep the child, her life is pretty much over.  She can kiss career prospects goodbye in most instance.  She might as well resign herself to having no social life for the next 20 years.  She'll be broke.  And she'll be around 40 before she can even think of picking up the pieces, although as a rule, she'll have at least one more child on the way through

The male ejected a teaspoon of sperm and in doing so, he put the skids under that girl's life.  What powah.  That's how to keep women down

That guy might achieve jack in his life.  He might never make it past part-time chicken-plucker.  He might never own a home, never have a car, never have a cent in the bank.  He might be bald and a physical wreck by 25, living in an old car, spending his welfare on drugs.  But gee, he had his moments of power when he consigned half a dozen or more women to single-parenthood and condemned half a dozen kids to lives of deprivation, emotional and other

So time governments, religions, men and women taught boys from early on that sperm results in kids and if they're not equipped or prepared to be there for the child, then walk away, walk away

As for abortions, yes it's an emotive issue.  But let's not forget that billions of potential children end up in tissue, being flushed

Let's not forget either that medical error kills at least 18,000 Australians every year and that figure is said to be closer to 54,000

And should we mention to politicians that tens of thousands of men return from active service as zombies, quite apart from those who die in the wars for profit in which Australia has no justifiable role other than being blackmailed by US-rael ?

Then there are all those children who're mentally, physically and sexually abused by parents in the main -- parents who opted out of abortion and instead made children's lives a living hell with the poisons extending down through subsequent generations

[i-need-a-martini]

Middle eastern men? Climbing out of the jungle?

There is an awful lot of mindless twaddle in your disjointed tirade but I'd really love you to explain what that sentence has to do with the topic.

[lakeland27]

good luck with that . the best thing men can do is allow freedom of choice, one don't have to embrace abortion but simply realise they do not and should not dictate women's choices. people such as bernardi want to control others genitals, he's the freak.

[lakeland27]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Middle eastern men? Climbing out of the jungle?

There is an awful lot of mindless twaddle in your disjointed tirade but I'd really love you to explain what that sentence has to do with the topic.

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it seems an obsession that permeates everything else

[lakeland27]

?? is the ABC involved ?

[i-need-a-martini]

OMG lol!

I must print out your rubbish and take it to the muslim females who are my neighbours to force them to see how hideous their lives really are. Apparently. Even though they usually take them off inside, I better tell them to keep their "bedspread" on because who knows what muslim male might be lurking. Is that right?

And when I go and pick up the figs that my muslim neighbour has kindly picked for me from his tree this morning, I had better watch out hey? Cause he won't be able to control his sexual urges. Simply because he is a muslim male. And so apparently has no control. I better not let my daughter play cricket with his sone anymore either - waddyer say?

What a load of...!

[polocross58]

Then there are the publicity-seeking muslim 'clerics'  (by and large completely uneducated)

They claim Aussie women and girls deserve to be r.a.p.e.d. 

Why ?

Because of the way they look, claim the muslim clerics and muslim r.a.p.i.s.t.s.

Pure misogyny

Misognyny

Perhaps in some deep, dark, recess of their minds, muslims sort of worked out that women are the original

and men the poor copy

Maybe they pondered the fact that males have nipples

Maybe while they were carving people up, they sort of got a clue that a p.e.n.i.s. is actually a prolapsed uterus ?

Maybe they noticed that testes seem to be externalised ovaries ?

Maybe they reached the horrible for them conclusion that women's bodies are the more refined, more elegant and practical ?

After all, nothing very practical about a man having his most cherished possessions (p.e.n.i.s. and testes) hanging out there in danger from just about everything --- blackberry bushes, barbed-wire fences, guns, low-kicks, kids' poor aim when playing, etc. etc. etc.

Jealousy !

Rage !

Fury !

Muslim males were accustomed to believing they were top of the tree

and then they were forced to the realisation they were merely a poor, modified copy of the original

The Greeks had the same sense of rage

So much so that they defamed women at every opportunity, claiming women were hysterical and women's wombs were filled with foul odours and madness

The Greeks were so shocked to learn they are basically women with external s.e.x. organs

that they decided the only way to make things right was to sleep with young boys and each other

and the Romans followed suit

and it continues today

But of ALL the world's misogynists, the muslims continue to drag the chain and to chain themselves and their women in the Stone Age

by shrouding women in bedspreads

by slicing off their genitals

by claiming it their right to have four simultaneous wives

by taking to their beds little girls --- little girls

and they stand condemned

because misogyny, although still rampant throughout the world

is embarrassed by islam misogyny which is so blatant about itself

[bluecat*dancing]

So what exactly is Akerman's problem? What a poorly written article. It flits around hysterically like a manic butterfly wearing footy boots. "Termination" is hardly a politically correct word. The words "termination" and "abortion" are inter-changeable. If Akerman was not such a lazy journalist/commentater he would have done research into abortion but I guess shock-jocks are loathe to do that. 

Now that the LNP has the ABC in its sights, it is to be expected that they will be used as a target at every opportunity. Going by what Akerman wrote, the ABC is definitely not against free speech.

Also, what have American statistics got to do with Australia? Our social systems are different as are our attitudes and laws..

Only the uniformed or gullible would believe such nonsense.

[lakeland27]

his problem stems from his rampant alcoholism . piers is a nasty drunk and he;s usually drunk.

[polocross58]

Anyway, after that possibly deliberate derailment

let's get back to the topic raised in the thread title -- that of abortion

It's my contention that men must shoulder the larger part of responsibility

They need to forget the boozing

the fishing

the porn

the bragging and BS with mates

the perving

and all other noble male pursuits

and instead they need educating about the results of dumping a bit of sperm into a female

If they are opposed to being educated, then penalties must be applied, i.e. men must pay.  Not of their own volition.  No, their wages and welfare payments must foot the bill for every child they put on the planet

Men hate paying, as a rule

So it should result in a swift end to pregnancies

And no half-hearted measures, either

To make sure men understand they WILL pay for the children they put on the planet, women's pay and welfare must be stopped until they reveal the name of their 'baby daddy'

DNA will soon sort out if they're lying

So that should put a stop to women who get any guy from the street to impregnate them in order they can gain single-mother's welfare

Until governments get serious about stopping kids being forced into a life

abortions will continue

So up to governments and the religious groups at the back of them to get serious

Sooner the better

because I'm not seeing many happy kids around