ABC doesn't believe in Right to free speech

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THE left, be they from the ALP or the ABC, oppose free speech when it is their ideology which is under scrutiny. 

 

That's why there was a sustained outbreak of clamorous opposition to Senator Cory Bernardi's middle-of-the-road discussion of cultural values last week.

 

The South Australian Senator broke two of the rules laid down by the left.

 

He asked why no discussion of abortion is permitted in Australia though there are anything from 70,000 to 100,000 abortions carried out in this country each year, according to evidence given in Senate estimates - and he questioned whether single-parent families are the golden standard for child rearing.

 

Under leftist dogma, abortion, or the more politically correct euphemism, termination, should only be discussed by women. Then, using the usual distortions of the language which have seen homosexuals insist that they be called gays and that the descriptive noun marriage be corrupted to include same sex unions, the so-called progressives say they are in favour of a pro-choice policy on abortion which means in fact that women are rarely presented with any options, in effect - no-choice.

 

By breaking these taboos, Senator Bernardi aroused the slumberous feminist lobby, few of whom it would seem have actually read his book, The Conservative Revolution, which was published almost a month ago and has been reviewed in numerous forums.

 

Senator Bernardi does not hide behind weasel words.

 

He is so plain spoken that most of the commentators who have attacked him have revealed their ignorance of his writings or have taken his words totally out of context.

 

He believes in the battle of ideas and thinks it is important for politicians to stand up for what they believe in. Indeed, he believes it's the right and responsibility of every member of the parliament to engage in the battle of ideas.

 

"It's absolutely critical that politicians are prepared to discuss ideas that are controversial," he told me.

 

"Otherwise we are stuck with a tyranny of political correctness. That's a stifling doctrine we need to rebel against in this country - that's the revolution I am calling for."

 

The Senator understands that abortion is an emotive topic, he understands - as most people do - that it can cause enormous stress and anguish, but he is also concerned that one in five pregnancies in this country are being terminated and believes that should be a cause for concern and debate.

 

He has not said we should outlaw or prohibit abortion but that was certainly the insinuation made by his critics.

 

His position on abortion is exactly the same as that as that held by former US president Bill Clinton - that it "should not only be safe and legal, it should be rare".

 

Last January, in his State of the Union address, President Barack Obama echoed president Clinton's remarks saying: "Today and every day, my administration continues our efforts to reduce unintended pregnancies, support maternal and child health, and minimise the need for abortion."

 

That view is also held by Prime Minister Tony Abbott, whom the members of the ALP and some commentators from the ABC have attempted to link to extreme anti-abortion views on numerous occasions when they attempt to drag his personal and private religious views into the political debate.

 

Senator Bernardi was also attacked by ABC breakfast presenter Beverley O'Connor for mentioning single-parent families in his book.

 

She framed her question: "The book really rails against non-traditional families; children within a gay relationship, children of marriage breakdowns. In 2014 now, this is a fact of life, this is not necessarily a fact that families want but it's a fact of life isn't it?"

 

In defence of traditional families, Senator Bernardi had written: "Why then the levels of criminality among boys and promiscuity among girls who are brought up in single-parent families, more often than not headed by a single mother?"

 

Had O'Connor wished to put the argument in an intelligent context, she might have noted that there was a footnote in the book which referenced a New York Time article on a Father's Day address delivered by President Obama which said: "We know the statistics - that children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime.

 

"Nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison.

 

"They are more likely to have behavioural problems, or run away from home, or become teenage parents themselves. And the foundation of our community is weaker because of it".

 

O'Connor's approach to the Bernardi book exemplifies the arrant hypocrisy taken by so many at the ABC when they are wittingly or subconsciously taking up the cudgels for the left and Labor against conservative figures.

 

They so obviously inject and infect their interviews and assaults with their own personal political prejudices.

 

While O'Connor may not like the mainstream moral compass which has served society well for millennia, she and other critics should note that on these issues, Senator Bernardi is actually in excellent company.

 

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/abc-doesnt-believe-in-right-to-free-speech/story-fni0c...

 

 

 

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Nature cares not for individuals

 

Nature has arranged for as much as possible to reproduce -- to replace itself before it dies

 

Nature assists dandelions to breed

 

Nature assists cockroaches to breed

 

Nature assists rats to breed

 

Nature wants a seething mass of life to choke the planet

 

 

As humans, we go out of our way to STOP rats, cockroaches, dandelions etc. from breeding as a way of ensuring the safety of humans

 

Rats and cockroaches obviously have a rudimentary brain sufficient to cause them to duck under the dishwasher when the kitchen lighst are turned on

 

but rats, cockroaches, weed and anything else that gets in the way of human survival don't have the wherewithal to combat and defeat humans

 

 

 

Do we wail and wring our hands when cropdusters kill millions of insects in order those insects cannot damage crops ?

 

Answer:  No.  We think it's a good thing

 

We restrict our wailing and wringing of hands to the elimination of humans

 

 

 

However --- we make exceptions when humans are killed and disabled in WARS

 

and organised religions exhort their followers to kill and die in wars

 

 

 

So --- some deaths are not only celebrated, they are orchestrated

 

and organised religions profit variously and it's all ok

 

' God is on our side'

 

and the other warring faction believes God is on their side also

 

 

 

Then the war ends.  The bodies are stuffed out of the way and out of sight under the ground

 

and they all go back to fornicating and furiously breeding once more -- out of inclination and because Nature is pushing them to increase their number to make up for those who died in battle before having time to replace themselves on the planet

 

 

What absurdity it is to whine and wail about abortion

 

 

when the wailers and whiners go about their business while people are killing and dying in wars

 

 

and while the medical community is killing FAR more than wars and all accidents combined

 

and while all around them, people are dying from drugs and alcohol and depression and suicide

 

 

at the same time others are indulging in unprotected s.e.x which brings about unwanted humans

 

 

 

What a hypocritical bunch of munts societies and religions are

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' Abortion is a universal phenomenon, occurring throughout recorded history and at all levels of societal organization. Techniques are highly varied, as are the circumstances under which it is practised

 

 Only 10% of the American population would like to see abortion prohibited under all circumstances

 

Individuals who disapprove of abortion differ from those who approve of its availability in that they are more likely to be Roman Catholic or fundamentalist Protestant ' end quotes

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3519038

 

 

 

Without viable sperm, there can be no pregnancies, wanted or other

 

Were men to deposit sperm in a bank, then undergo vasectomy, they could indulge in sex with willing females and there would be no unwanted pregnancies, no abortions.   Then, when the man was in a committed relationship. his chosen partner could be inseminated with his banked sperm and all children arising from that relationship would be entitled to be supported by the father who chose they should live on this planet

 

it's not rocket science

 

 

Time to implement the above or similar system, imo

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Then the war ends.  The bodies are stuffed out of the way and out of sight under the ground

 

and they all go back to fornicating and furiously breeding once more -- out of inclination and because Nature is pushing them to increase their number to make up for those who died in battle before having time to replace themselves on the planet

 

What absurdity it is to whine and wail about abortion

 

when the wailers and whiners go about their business while people are killing and dying in wars

 

and while the medical community is killing FAR more than wars and all accidents combined

 

and while all around them, people are dying from drugs and alcohol and depression and suicide

 

at the same time others are indulging in unprotected s.e.x which brings about unwanted humans 

 

What a hypocritical bunch of munts societies and religions are


munt (plural munts)

(Rhodesia, slang, originally military, pejorative, offensive, ethnic slur) A black person, usually a man.

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Why do you feel the need to look up a word then post the def: of it on here. It's something you & your ilk do quite often. Please tell us your motives.

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@silverfaun wrote:

Why do you feel the need to look up a word then post the def: of it on here. It's something you & your ilk do quite often. Please tell us your motives.


Thank you for your question.

 

I looked it up because I had never heard of it before, is that OK? 

 

I have a bad habit (I am aware) of correcting those who make clangers because it is usually those who continually drone on about the terrrrible Australian education system yet don't want the reforms introduced.  (Those in glass houses etc.)

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@silverfaun wrote:

Why do you feel the need to look up a word then post the def: of it on here. It's something you & your ilk do quite often. Please tell us your motives.


Why do you feel the need to group posters together as if they're in some sort of club, as in you and your ilk? 

I see that sort of categorisation a lot.

Please tell us your motives for that.

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 From Polo Cross's Article :men blame women for the rising rate of molestation in the Gulf. The poll surveyed 992 men and women.

 

 

 

 

 


doesn't that happen in this Country too ?

 

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@izabsmiling wrote:

 From Polo Cross's Article :men blame women for the rising rate of molestation in the Gulf. The poll surveyed 992 men and women.

 

 

 

 

 


doesn't that happen in this Country too ?

 


992 men and women is a very small sample, and before commenting on the findings one would also like to know how the participants were selected. 

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Polo Cross wrote:Are women generally, worldwide, trying to dictate males' reproductive business ?

 

For every abortion, there stand two behind it who are most personally involved: a man, a woman

 

How many men attend the abortion of their own child ?  Should they be required to attend the abortion of their potential offspring ?  Will that cause men to be more selective and cautious about where they cast their seed ?

 

 

 

 

women can have an abortion without a man knowing 

their contraceptives can fail 

they can have unhealthy addictions unbeknown to their male partner.

I know of one such case ..an early abortion may not have happened if the male knew and had to attend 

Should she have needed his permission ? 

 

 

 

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Why would you try to correlate another country's laws into this debate?? this is something you do all the time. I think it's because your argument doesn't hold water so you cast around for an extreme example to prop yourself up.

 

Now this type of behaviour is not helpful & does nothing for the debate. If you have anything relating to this country that says the morning after pill induces an "abortion" your words, or that women are in imminent  danger of having their rights denied them then that would be helpful.

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