ADHD.........does it exist, or just an excuse?

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@twinkles**stars wrote:

It is not an illness


What is the correct term to use, I don't have children so know very little about things that afflick children?

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@i-once-was-bump wrote:

@twinkles**stars wrote:

It is not an illness


What is the correct term to use, I don't have children so know very little about things that afflick children?


Illnesses are something you get over after treatment.

 

You don't get over ADHD, ADD, Aspergers, etc. While medication helps, you just deal with it.

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I thought about 1/3 of children diagnosed with ADHD grew out of it ?

 

I though that was a large part of the research into ADHD ie working out how or why some do grow out of it?

 

http://www.action.org.uk/our_research/attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder_adhd_why_do_some_chil...

 

 

There is no cure for ADHD, though both medical and psychological treatments can help control symptoms.

 

Around one third of children seem to grow out of their disorder during adolescence, but the others find their ADHD

 

persists into adult life.

 

A key question is ‘Why?’ Finding the answer could lead to ways to help more children overcome ADHD.

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@i-once-was-bump wrote:

@twinkles**stars wrote:

It is not an illness


What is the correct term to use, I don't have children so know very little about things that afflick children?


Attention Deficit Hyperactvity Disorder

 

 

Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is among the most common psychiatric disorders of childhood that persists into adulthood in the majority of cases. The evidence on persistence poses several difficulties for adult psychiatry considering the lack of expertise for diagnostic assessment, limited treatment options and patient facilities across Europe.

 

 

I believe ADHD is very real, but it has been way overdiagnosed which has turned getting correct help for genuine cases into something of a farce

 

When it comes to adults, European study shows:

 

ADHD often presents as an impairing lifelong condition in adults, yet it is currently underdiagnosed and treated in many European countries, leading to ineffective treatment and higher costs of illness.

 


I think it would be similar in Australia.

 

 

 

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@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:

I thought about 1/3 of children diagnosed with ADHD grew out of it ?

 

I though that was a large part of the research into ADHD ie working out how or why some do grow out of it?

 

http://www.action.org.uk/our_research/attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder_adhd_why_do_some_chil...

 

 

There is no cure for ADHD, though both medical and psychological treatments can help control symptoms.

 

Around one third of children seem to grow out of their disorder during adolescence, but the others find their ADHD

 

persists into adult life.

 

A key question is ‘Why?’ Finding the answer could lead to ways to help more children overcome ADHD.


Because it's a brain disorder, which makes it unpredictable. Say you're epiliptic and you get sympathy, say you have ADHD and you're called a poser, an attention seeker, lacking in control. Well. Really? Tell someone with AIDS to get over it, or Cancer, these are *acceptable*medical conditions. So don't have Aspergers or ADHD (for real)

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I did not suggest that anybody should just get over it.

 

.. The fact is 1/3 cure themselves... and get over it.. i don't know why do you??

 

The researchers are trying to find out why 1/3  do.

 

Overdiagnosis may be the reason why... ie they did not have ADHD in the first place...

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Maybe they didn't have it........... or maybe as adults they have chosen to manage it in a different way. Since we don't know the cause, perhaps the "cause" has been removed from their "diet/environment etc?

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@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:

I did not suggest that anybody should just get over it.

 

.. The fact is 1/3 cure themselves... and get over it.. i don't know why do you??

 

The researchers are trying to find out why 1/3  do.

 

Overdiagnosis may be the reason why... ie they did not have ADHD in the first place...


They don't cure themselves. They adjust they're way of living to fit in with everyone else. And perhaps the researchers should actually get that the medication doesn't work for those that don't have it. And work from there.

 

I didn't say they should get over it. Perhaps you need to reread my posts?

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As adults the ones that have grown out of it in adolesence do not need to manage it. They do not have ADHD

 

It is the ones that did not grow out of ADHD that need to perservere and manage it.

 

That's why I cannot understnad why in one breath reserachers say it is incurable

 

.. then in the next they say about 1/3 grow out of the disorder.. I guess it is becasue it is because the "cure' (growing out of it) cannot be administered/controlled

 

... it just manifests itself.. and they do not know why

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Lis has two sons, the youngest isn't affected, I believe it's in our family, I refused to have my son diagnosed ADHD because of the stigma at the time, as a result he did poorly at school. I wish now I had listened to the experts and not the know it all's.
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