Abbott is a liability to this country

[donnashuggy]

I appreciate the fact that some people 'like' him

Seriously though, what is he going to come out with next?

Aren't you even slightly concerned?

[purplecarrot-top]

Not sure what he said. But Katy told him she would never vote for him because of his same sex marriage stand.

[purplecarrot-top]

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/katy-perry-grills-tony-abbott-on-gay-ma...

[izabsmiling]

thanks for that info .

Malcolm Fraser has expressed his own opinion of Tony Abbott ...

he believes him to be a dangerous Politician .

[lurker17260]

"I love you as a human being but I can't give you my vote," Perry told Mr Abbott on Sydney's 2DayFM, after being informed he opposed same-sex marriage.

To be fair, I don't think Katy Perry has a vote to give to anybody in Australian politics

[lakeland27]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

Next time an LNP member or journalist drops the “Abbott volunteers for weeks in Indigenous communities” line, call bleep  and then refer them to the figures. Three days and nearly $45000 in flights alone…, if that’s volunteering the rest of us are really doing it all wrong. Many of us, some one million odd Australians, do volunteer every year for community organisations, they slog their guts out, donate large amounts of money and never even ask for a thank you. The audacity of this public lie should be even more shocking when we remember that Indigenous life expectancy is at third world levels and Mr Abbott is racking up huge bills to do nothing about it while claiming credit for work he simply doesn’t do!

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i neglected to say this is from the link back in the thread somewhere.i thought it obvious.. the punctuation is correct for one thing .

[monman12]

FN: "I have in the past provided plenty of researched information about the NBN and you always find a reason to claim it's not right."

When? provide my posts that were wrong, as I obviously overlooked the "information" FN!

I do not "claim",  I provide  definitive information to argue what  is a litany of what appears to be anecdotal nonsense. Anyway FN,  dig up some of your posted "information"  from  possible  reputable sources,  that I disputed, and  we can  joust from there. Start with: Telstra freely entering into  giving up its fixed line telecommunications!

[freakiness]

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@monman12 wrote:

FN: "I have in the past provided plenty of researched information about the NBN and you always find a reason to claim it's not right."

When? provide my posts that were wrong, as I obviously overlooked the "information" FN!

I do not "claim",  I provide  definitive information to argue what  is a litany of what appears to be anecdotal nonsense. Anyway FN,  dig up some of your posted "information"  from  possible  reputable sources,  that I disputed, and  we can  joust from there. Start with: Telstra freely entering into  giving up its fixed line telecommunications!

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You mean the deal they negotiated that over 90% of the shareholders agreed to?

[monman12]

Thank you FN you confirm my assertions entirely.

Apropos Telstra, FN: "You mean the deal they negotiated that over 90% of the shareholders agreed to?"
"Telstra agreed. They signed an agreement, They negotiated a good deal. They were not forced. They made the business decision to work with NBN Co before the legislation was debated and passed'

Before the legislation, what absolute nonsense, the decision by Telstra was announced  Thu Jun 23, 2011 and was put to a vote on Oct 18 2011 whilst the strong-arm legislation bill was passed on 26 November, 2010 12:40,  6 MONTHS BEFORE the vote.

Now the actual background :

1. Amendments to the Telecommunications Act in 2010 established a novel regulatory scheme that allowed Telstra to, in effect, choose whether it would structurally separate or else submit to potentially onerous restrictions on its existing and future business activities (including mandatory functional separation and being denied access to certain new spectrum). Consequently, in connection with the commercial agreements it struck with NBN Co and the Australian government, Telstra elected to structurally separate.

In modern terms Telstra were made an offer they (we) could not refuse, mainly by being refused a slice of RF spectrum absolutely necessary for expansion of the 4G LTE technology and the Next G network  unless they migrated.

That was not a free choice, and as an owner of a bunch of Telstra shares I was well aware of the government "blackmail"  then,  so made the best of the situation with other shareholders by accepting the only possible alternative.

Excerpts from the bill:
(1) The Minister may, by legislative instrument, determine that the
 excluded spectrum regime applies to Telstra.

If the excluded spectrum regime applies to Telstra, the ACMA
must not allocate a spectrum licence to Telstra if the licence relates
to a designated part of the spectrum.

Reference:
Telecommunications Legislation
Amendment (Competition and
Consumer Safeguards) Bill 2010

In summary FN:  your dates are incorrect, you obviously have not read the bill, and  your suggestion that shareholders/Telstra freely wished to migrate HFC and decommission copper is nonsense.

[lakeland27]

telstra should have never been sold. it made costellos bottom line look good though (along with the tonnes of gold he sold at $billions less than today's (let alone a few months ago) prices. that's great economic management.. something brings the government a lot of potential revenue so the libs sell it off to private enterprise.. gifting friends the revenue instead..  what genius. or is it legalised cronyism /corruption ?, all on a so-called principle.

[silverfaun]

As opposed to Rudd running around the country hoping we have all suffered from memory loss?