on โ12-02-2014 06:03 AM
There goes the benchmark that keeps our insurance premiums at a decent level.
I don't even understand why this is even necessary given that Medibank makes a profit? It's as if decisions are being made without any thought goig into it other than they promised to do it in 2007 so this is their way of punishing voters for not voting for them in at that time.
What other reason could there be?
on โ13-02-2014 06:57 PM
@boris1gary wrote:from The Guardian CPA #1626
The Business Council of Australia has advocated privatisation of Australia Post in a submission to the Abbott governmentโs Commission of Audit. Itโs also arguing that ASC Pty Ltd (formerly the Australian Submarine Corporation), the Australian Government Solicitor, the Australian Rail Track Corporation, Defence Housing Australia, Medibank Private, and NBN Co (the National Broadband Network Company) should all be privatised.
Moreover, they want the governmentโs holdings in Snowy Hydro and other corporations, as well as valuable real estate owned by government bodies, to be sold.
Who gets rich quick?
Business lobbies and the Abbott government argue that selling government organisations makes sense because commercial firms would run them more efficiently. But firms achieve โefficiencyโ by raising the fees for services which were previously cheap or even free โ or by eliminating unprofitable services altogether. The firm benefits, the taxpayer loses.
Speaking of tax, the Tax Office intends to shed 900 jobs over the next six months, and is now seriously considering implementing a scheme known as the โExternal Compliance Assurance Processโ, under which the accountants of companies with annual turnovers of between $100 million and $5 billion, rather than the Tax Office, would determine the amount of tax the companies paid,.A spokesman for the Tax Institute declared proudly, and with a perfectly straight face: โWith the high levels of professional ethics in the profession, companies are not going to get a free rideโ
The accountancy firms these corporations have hired to help them minimise their tax liabilities are the very ones that will be expected to ensure the corporations do the right thing by the taxpayer under the new scheme. And they will still be paid by the corporations, not the government.
The scheme is clearly a case of โputting the fox in charge of the chookhouseโ.
Economists have recently stated that the government should not sell off its remaining businesses, because the former sale of Telstra, Qantas and Sydney Airport was not a good deal for the Australian public. John Quiggin from Queensland University commented: โIn general, the price received for assets has been less than their value in continued public ownership. And conversely, in cases where privatisation was proposed but did not go ahead, the actual earnings received have been more than the return from the estimated sale priceโ.
The proposal to sell off government businesses and properties must be seen as part of the governmentโs overriding strategy of facilitating private sector profitability. That involves minimising government restraints, selling off valuable government-owned real estate, privatising as many government operations as possible, helping to minimise the tax liabilities of corporations โ and suppressing organisations such as the ABC, which might offer criticism of its actions.
It's just a matter of time. No Australian government will be able to stand up to the pressure of the global financiers and corporate raiders. It would be a cataclysm, we would be sanctioned much the way Iran currently is if we dared to buck the system. It would take stronger people than Mr Abbott and certainly the likes of Mr Shorten.
on โ13-02-2014 06:59 PM
@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
If you are concerned, check with your fund.
There are different types of surgical procedures for both eyes and hearts, there were significant ones that were newly excluded.
I just did.....our cover with Medibank Private definitely still covers both....Corporate Top Hospital and Extras.
on โ13-02-2014 07:02 PM
on โ13-02-2014 07:04 PM
@freakiness wrote:
@crikey*mate wrote:boris, I think you have a lot to teach me, but is there anyway you could summarize?
Maybe just hit the high points?
Medicare brings in about $400million a year. If Joe and tone sell it that's $400million a year we won't get.
That's $400mil that can be used for NDIS every year for starters.
Once it's been sold it does not generate anymore income for Australia.
Before you start talking about insurance companies and NDIS it's for all those people with uninsurable causes like genetics, birth defects and accidents not covered by insurance.
Thanks
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on โ13-02-2014 07:10 PM
โ13-02-2014 07:12 PM - edited โ13-02-2014 07:14 PM
on โ14-02-2014 02:46 AM
@debra9275 wrote:
We're with Medibank too, same cover as yours Lyndal and yes, they are covered.
We've been with them for years, but if it's sold we might start looking around for an alternative
We were with MBF (now Bupa) for over 30 years but when they became Bupa they went downhill fast. We went to Medibank about 3-4 years ago. I used one of those comparison services at the end of last year and could get the same cover (in some cases much better) with NIB at $60 a month less. The only reason we did not change at once was that the announcement was made about the fee increases for this year...NIB was the highest. We decided to wait till the new fees were in force and then look around again.
on โ14-02-2014 10:49 AM
on โ14-02-2014 11:44 AM
"Itโs probable that public attitudes to privatisation are more a visceral response, rather than a rational consideration of economic reasons why some activities should be in the public sector and why some should be in the private sector."
"What this means, in simple terms, is that โbadโ privatisations have driven out the opportunities for โgoodโ privatisations, such as Medibank Private. Itโs the price we pay for a dumbed-down public discourse."
โ14-02-2014 12:07 PM - edited โ14-02-2014 12:08 PM
yes, just us dummies irrational fear of nothing really.................
from Independent Australia
The Chair of the Commission herself, Prof Christine Bennett, had a background in the private health insurance industry โ she worked as chief medical officer in the Australian arm of health multinational, Bupa, founded in the UK and now with vast interests in European private health.
Last year, in 2013, Bupa went on the record saying they wanted Medibank Private privatised and that they sought an
โโฆ end Commonwealth involvement in setting annual premium increases.โ
The former is Abbott Government policy and the latter, well, falling short of ending involvement in fee-setting, the Coalition government has allowed private insurance premiums to rise by a generous 6.2% this year (inflation is 2%) โ the highest since 2005, according to media reports.
The Guardian CPA
Economists have recently stated that the government should not sell off its remaining businesses, because the former sale of Telstra, Qantas and Sydney Airport was not a good deal for the Australian public. John Quiggin from Queensland University commented โIn general, the price received for assets has been less than their value in continued public ownership. And conversely, in cases where privatisation was proposed but did not go ahead, the actual earnings received have been more than the return from the estimated sale price.