on 25-05-2013 11:47 AM
We have people spreading the hate for everyone from the PM to the disabled and refugees everyday.
Today we have Adam Goodes, who truly lived up to his name.
on 29-07-2015 08:13 PM
I'm pretty sure you'll find that no player is booed purely because of their race. it's their on-field behaviour which is the source and the cause of the booos.
on 29-07-2015 09:29 PM
@iapetus_rocks wrote:How many other aboriginal players get booed?
Name one.
Goodes is not being booed because he is aboriginal, it is because he has behaved like an absolute wally on the pitch. He is reaping the rewards of his own aggressive and unsportsmanlike behaviour.
That's not the truth. The attacks on Goodes have been building since the Racism, It stops with me campaign and intensifies every time he stands up to it instead of meekly accepting it.
There is no place for everyday racism, just as there is no place for everyday sexism. If nobody speaks out and says enough people keep suffering nothing will change.
Adam Goodes is being subject to an extreme bullying attack because he didn't hop back in his box and shut his mouth. We don't like our own family or friends to be treated like that so why do we expect him to put up and shut up?
How can we expect children not to grow up to be bullies when we excuse foul bullying behaviour as just part of the game?
on 29-07-2015 09:31 PM
Yeah. just like it's the kid in the corner's fault that his lunch is stolen and he is kicked in the guts every day. It is not his on field behaviour that is the problem. He has earned the best and fairest award twice.
@iapetus_rocks wrote:I'm pretty sure you'll find that no player is booed purely because of their race. it's their on-field behaviour which is the source and the cause of the booos.
on 29-07-2015 10:05 PM
Well then he blew it by singling out that 13 year old girl and acting like a wuss.
She was 13 for goodness sakes. If he had just ignored it, nothing would have happened.
The brains of young teenagers are not fully developed and they haven't had much life experience at that age.
The girl will probably look back on this later in life and be embarrassed by what she said, and she's going to have all the film cilps and news stories to review to remind her of what she did; forever after.
That said, it's worth remembering that football is an intensely tribal culture and factional, whose factions are at "war" with each other. Footy is a war game. Listen to the words and the terminology of the commentators and read their descriptions of the play.
Football fans are not known for their highly evolved cultural sensibilities. They are baying-for-blood, members of opposing war bands (even if the war is an artificial and highly stylized one).
Goodes' provocative "war dances" and enacted "spear throwing" expresses a desire to do violence to those at the "pointy end" of his performance.
Remember, he's doing this to football fans, and they are guaranteed to respond with a sort of tribal violence of their own and yes, even with racist taunts given who they are.
Goodes is a mature adult, or at least one would like to believe so, but when I see him acting out throwing spears at rival team supporters and finishing off with an obscene arm gesture, doubts arise. What on earth did he expect to happen?
The girl has the excuse of youth, Goodes has the excuse, I suppose of belonging to an uncultured, aggressive tribal "team" who tries, every other weekend or so, to "thrash" their rivals and "humiliate" them by "beating" them in, after all, what is only a game.
People like him are teaching our youth that violence in the context of tribal factionalism (aka football) is an ok and even normal way to behave.
on 29-07-2015 10:40 PM
@iapetus_rocks wrote:Well then he blew it by singling out that 13 year old girl and acting like a wuss.
She was 13 for goodness sakes. If he had just ignored it, nothing would have happened.
The brains of young teenagers are not fully developed and they haven't had much life experience at that age.
So he's on the ground playing and she's rugged up in the stands. You tell me how he was supposed to know she was 13 when he called her out for what she said? He found out later and he asked everyone to go easy on her.
on 29-07-2015 10:43 PM
It's AFL football, they love the drama.
One footballer spits the dummy, and the spectators play it up.
Honestly, who gives a rats?
29-07-2015 11:10 PM - edited 29-07-2015 11:11 PM
Really I don't know why I'm even here commenting on this at all. I hate football.
I hate the aggression. I hate the violence. I hate the factionalsim. I hate the lack of cultural sensitivity that sees thousands of people at each others' throats (even metaphorically) every weekend.
I hate the dumbing down of Australian culture by the ritualistic tribal warfare conducted with monotonous and sickening regularity which is football.
They are dumb, violent people playing a dumb and violent game in front of bloodthirsty dumb and violent fans who get to act out their violence vicariously by identifying so closely with the fortunes of their adopted war band team.
It's bad for Australian cultural development. It makes those involved more agressive and even violent. It's only good for making money for the few.
Football players are not great role models, let's face it.
It's the pollution of aggression and violence which big money brings to the game.
There used to be the saying "it's just not cricket" recalling the sportsmanlike fairness and fair play which was synonymous with that sport.
Sadly, that saying no longer rings true and it's all because of the attraction to the money which success in the sport brings.
It's only a game for goodness sake.
Those who take it more seriously need their heads read.
I have been called by racist epithets when I was young. I didn't like it either but I'm smart enough and educated enough and cultured enough to understand that those taunts reflected more on the character of those who made them than on my own.
We need more education and culture in this country and far less of this moronic, violent and dumbing down weekend activity which passes for "sport".
on 30-07-2015 12:51 AM
IR, I concur with your comments, adding the qualification that I think "hate" is a waste of passion here for what I regard as a form of "religion" or "gang"membership.
on 30-07-2015 02:23 AM
Feb. 1, 2015- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoMUpftpFX8
Love and hate can not exist inside the same heart at the same time. . . . . . . Chuck Baldwin
Feb. 22, 2015- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9wAyRva0N0
Jul. 26, 2015 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Eu34hJ7NM4
30-07-2015 06:29 AM - edited 30-07-2015 06:31 AM
12 months ago this is what Goodes said re the booing
"It hasn't been difficult," he told reporters on Wednesday when asked about the booing.
"It's not something that I'm not used to.
"There's been many a time being booed at football grounds.
"Sometimes it's a mark of respect, that the opposition fans don't want you to play well, and every time you get the football.
"It doesn't bother me to be honest.
"It's one of those things where if I pay too much attention to what the crowd's doing, then I'm not really playing my role on the field.
"We're just worried about getting out there and winning games, wherever they are, and since I've been back this year we've only lost two games.
"It's been a pretty good streak for us as a football club, but me individually as well."
So what's the difference now... the difference is..... wait for it
Goodes form has been poor the club is losing gomes... and all of a sudden.... the booing worries him......
didn't worry him (strangely) when the bloods were winning?? but worries him now that the bloods are losing??
Do you think that the cheers overpowered the boos in 2014 just in Goodes head or physically?
Because now the bloods are losing the boos must seem as though they are coming from a loud hailer and the cheers
from a hoarse mouse in the corner.
Martini your new matilda article needs a fact check...wish I had the time....