Afghanistan

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Is the presence of the US and subsequently Australia in Afghanistan, by invitation or force?

[spotweldersfriend]

Force.The taliban certainly didn't invite them

[amber-eyed-girl]

the Russians were not invited either

Afghanistan has a long history of uninvited guests

[*crikey*mate*]

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@spotweldersfriend wrote:
Force.The taliban certainly didn't invite them

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In which case, we must be in breach of International law, mustn't we?

Cos in 1945, the UN made a law saying it was illegal to invade a country by force.

Seems to me this was on the back of WWII, and that made me wonder if this is why there has not been a WWIII yet, but then I thought about the other smaller wars.

So, are we there illegally, or did someone invite us?

[amber-eyed-girl]

The Russians went in

The Taliban were the "good" guys

They were helped to power

the inevitable happened...

then the West went in to clear up the mess that started when the Taliban was helped to power...

the legalities of each step might be considered questionable, but it is like all wars

interests at play determine what happens

Politics, money, and then the legalities are a process of convincing the U.N. that other avenues are exhausted

[lyndal1838]

Isn't it a bit late for this discussion...the Australian troops have been withdrawn from Afganistan after 12 years?

[amber-eyed-girl]

That might be what triggered the question 🙂

wars, the rights and wrongs, are talked about long after their conclusion

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@amber-eyed-girl wrote:

The Russians went in

The Taliban were the "good" guys

They were helped to power

the inevitable happened...

then the West went in to clear up the mess that started when the Taliban was helped to power...

the legalities of each step might be considered questionable, but it is like all wars

interests at play determine what happens

Politics, money, and then the legalities are a process of convincing the U.N. that other avenues are exhausted  think you'll find that the Russians had their own Puppet Government which was opposed by the Us and when the Russians pulled out the Taliban took advantage of the vacuum.

 I think you'll find the Russians actually indstalled their own puppet government in Afghanistan - which was opposed by the US. when russia pulled out the Taliban took advantage of the power vacuum.

[the_great_she_elephant]

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/russia_invasion_afghanistan.htm

[amber-eyed-girl]

I did not mean the Russians helped the Taliban to power if that is what you were thinking.

Except indirectly.

the Taliban succeeded them, as you say.

which is how they were considered the better option, rather than a Russian-backed government.

it is worth having a look at how far back the U.S. May have been interested in Afghanistan, and how the Taliban was viewed at the time the Russians were in.