on 24-09-2013 03:34 PM
After watching Q & A with David Suzuki....I am starting to feel kind of sorry for Alarmists....
David Suzuki also had to admit he was wrong..lol.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3841115.htm
"David Suzuki on the very first question is revealed as a complete know-nothing. His questioner tells him that the main climate
data sets show no real warming for some 15 years.
Suzuki asks for the references, which he should have known if he knew anything of the science.
His questioner then lists them: UAH, RSS, HadCrut and GISS - four of the most basic measurement systems of global
temperature.
Suzuki asks what they are.
Anyone interested in global warming should know right there that Suzuki has absolutely no understanding of what he is talking
about...
For Example -
Challenged from the floor by Professor Stewart Franks, Suzuki admits he might have been mistaken in claiming global warming
was causing more cyclones, which he blamed for killing the Great Barrier Reef. He blames some Australian for “suggesting” it to
him. The truth, as I’ve noted before, is easily found on the Bureau of Meteorology website:.."
Between Tim Flannery and David Suzuki, it must be very embarrassing time to be an Alarmist......lol.
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on 24-09-2013 06:46 PM
how do you explain the last year being the hottest on record ? how ?
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24-09-2013
06:49 PM
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08:13 AM
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pixie-six
POD that is a silly, and unscientific respose.
History is good for producing data trends if it is of a significant time period, however , DLA (SRB) I kept this past gem of yours, and my response, for obvious reasons, (it uses NASA, and covers the present period!)
"We still haven't matched the temperatures of 1998..."
GISS
NASA Global Land-Ocean Temperature Index (C) (Anomaly with Base: 1951-1980)
Year Annual 5-year
Mean Mean
1997 0.46 0.45
1998 0.61 0.44
1999 0.40 0.48
2000 0.41 0.51
2001 0.53 0.51
2002 0.62 0.53
2003 0.60 0.58
2004 0.52 0.60
2005 0.66 0.60
2006 0.59 0.58
2007 0.62 0.59
2008 0.49 0.59
2009 0.59 0.58
2010 0.66 0.57
2011 0.55 *
2012 0.56 *
2013 * *
1998 annual mean was warm (spike) due to a El Niño event, but in annual mean it was exceeded in 2002, 2005, 2007, and 2010. However, if one takes the more meaningful 5 year_Mean, every year after 1998 has a greater (+) temperature anomaly from the 1998 and the 1951-1980 base.
Perhaps you would consider amending: "We still haven't matched the temperatures of 1998"
Chuckle.
nɥºɾ
on 24-09-2013 06:57 PM
The temperatures have dropped........
Of course, you are welcome to notify Nasa and let them know that their satellites are wrong......good luck!
Back peddling by Alarmists is always entertaining.......
on 24-09-2013 06:58 PM
Poddster..... it looks like you get the cigar yet again........
on 24-09-2013 07:06 PM
@monman12 wrote:POD that is a silly, and unscientific respose.
History is good for producing data trends if it is of a significant time period, however , DLA (SRB) I kept this past gem of yours, and my response, for obvious reasons, (it uses NASA, and covers the present period!)
DLA: "So...... how come the temperature has dropped.......giggle........"
"We still haven't matched the temperatures of 1998..."
GISS
NASA Global Land-Ocean Temperature Index (C) (Anomaly with Base: 1951-1980)
Year Annual 5-year
Mean Mean
1997 0.46 0.45
1998 0.61 0.44
1999 0.40 0.48
2000 0.41 0.51
2001 0.53 0.51
2002 0.62 0.53
2003 0.60 0.58
2004 0.52 0.60
2005 0.66 0.60
2006 0.59 0.58
2007 0.62 0.59
2008 0.49 0.59
2009 0.59 0.58
2010 0.66 0.57
2011 0.55 *
2012 0.56 *
2013 * *
1998 annual mean was warm (spike) due to a El Niño event, but in annual mean it was exceeded in 2002, 2005, 2007, and 2010. However, if one takes the more meaningful 5 year_Mean, every year after 1998 has a greater (+) temperature anomaly from the 1998 and the 1951-1980 base.
Perhaps you would consider amending: "We still haven't matched the temperatures of 1998"
Chuckle.nɥºɾ
there seems to be selective blindness/deafness here. thanks for putting the record straight.
on 24-09-2013 07:14 PM
All this great 'to do' about increasing temperature and hockey sticks is really just flim flam and smoke and mirrors.
When you look at the reality of the temperature swing that sustains life without catastrophic consequences is 8,000 greater than the figures that are bandied about.
By the way that temperature swing exists today -40 to +40 degrees C in at least one, that comes to mind, highly populated place in the world. It happens to be a thriving metropolis. Not my idea of a place to live but it is to many millions of others
on 24-09-2013 07:16 PM
@monman12 wrote:DLA I see your ignorance of the Scientific Method, and understanding of data periods has not changed:
SRP: " His questioner tells him that the main climate data sets show no real warming for some 15 years.
Suzuki asks for the references, which he should have known if he knew anything of the science."
I will ask for a reference also SRP to confirm "no real warming for some 15 years" , because the systems you have mentioned produced this, also have a bonus: NOAA.
As you so rightly, and unusually, comment SRP , four of the most basic measurement systems (+1) of global temperature, but for some reason the concept of meaningful trend period is never addressed for the selected 15 years, because the observation data periods you mention are selected to prove a short term point, when global warming (or cooling) of any significance takes many decades.
Why not present 1900-1915 or 1940-1955 as portents of meaningful cooling? Whoops, they were not then, nor will the current 15 years be either..
Remember SRP (DLA), always use a significant trend period to produce a significant yearly running average.
nɥºɾ
John do you have one of those graphs to cover the last 1000 years?
on 24-09-2013 07:17 PM
I am waiting until the "Fat Lady Sings' 🙂
on 24-09-2013 07:20 PM
Smoke your cigar will you wait....
on 24-09-2013 07:21 PM
are you suggesting pods smokes cigars?