on โ10-10-2013 09:21 PM
American Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill will be appearing before the British public for the first time in London on the 19th of October to present a controversial new discovery: ancient confessions recently uncovered now prove, according to Atwill, that the New Testament was written by first-century Roman aristocrats and that they fabricated the entire story of Jesus Christ.
Although to many scholars his theory seems outlandish, and is sure to upset some believers, Atwill regards his evidence as conclusive and is confident its acceptance is only a matter of time. "I present my work with some ambivalence, as I do not want to directly cause Christians any harm," he acknowledges, "but this is important for our culture. Alert citizens need to know the truth about our past so we can understand how and why governments create false histories and false gods. They often do it to obtain a social order that is against the best interests of the common people."
Was Jesus based on a real person from history? "The short answer is no," Atwill insists, "in fact he may be the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources. Once those sources are all laid bare, there's simply nothing left."
Is this the beginning of the end of Christianity? "Probably not," grants Atwill, "but what my work has done is give permission to many of those ready to leave the religion to make a clean break. We've got the evidence now to show exactly where the story of Jesus came from. Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history. To this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East."
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11201273.htm
Nooooooooooooooooooo.
โ10-10-2013 10:36 PM - edited โ10-10-2013 10:36 PM
its a subjective question.
Christianity exists, that is indisputible.
perhaps you need to define what you mean by Christianity.
edit - and what Christianity means to you.
By the same token, Catholicism also exists, that too is indieputible.
on โ10-10-2013 10:41 PM
@crikey*mate wrote:its a subjective question.
Christianity exists, that is indisputible.
perhaps you need to define what you mean by Christianity.
edit - and what Christianity means to you.
By the same token, Catholicism also exists, that too is indieputible.
Sure, I was pretty vague. I do agree Christianity is a meaningless term. So let's see if I can establish what you believe in.
Do you believe Jesus is son of God/part of the trinity ? Do you believe Jesus died for you sins and believing in him is the only way to salvation?
on โ10-10-2013 10:41 PM
@**freethinker_bob** wrote:Out of curiosity Eve, what evidence would you require for you to consider Catholocism is false?
Can't say I've really thought about it recently...........What ya got?
on โ10-10-2013 10:47 PM
@**meep** wrote:
@**freethinker_bob** wrote:Out of curiosity Eve, what evidence would you require for you to consider Catholocism is false?
Can't say I've really thought about it recently...........What ya got?
You have to tell me. It's your belief. I'm asking you what can change your mind? Here's a one way of thinking about it. Why are you not a muslim then?
on โ10-10-2013 10:52 PM
I like Vodka too much.
on โ10-10-2013 10:56 PM
on โ10-10-2013 10:57 PM
@**freethinker_bob** wrote:
@crikey*mate wrote:its a subjective question.
Christianity exists, that is indisputible.
perhaps you need to define what you mean by Christianity.
edit - and what Christianity means to you.
By the same token, Catholicism also exists, that too is indieputible.
Sure, I was pretty vague. I do agree Christianity is a meaningless term. So let's see if I can establish what you believe in.
Do you believe Jesus is son of God/part of the trinity ? Do you believe Jesus died for you sins and believing in him is the only way to salvation?
define salvation
โ10-10-2013 10:58 PM - edited โ10-10-2013 10:58 PM
on โ10-10-2013 10:59 PM
@crikey*mate wrote:
@**freethinker_bob** wrote:
@crikey*mate wrote:its a subjective question.
Christianity exists, that is indisputible.
perhaps you need to define what you mean by Christianity.
edit - and what Christianity means to you.
By the same token, Catholicism also exists, that too is indieputible.
Sure, I was pretty vague. I do agree Christianity is a meaningless term. So let's see if I can establish what you believe in.
Do you believe Jesus is son of God/part of the trinity ? Do you believe Jesus died for you sins and believing in him is the only way to salvation?
define salvation
Sure you just keep proving that Christians have no idea what they believe in. Why not you just tell me what you believe in and what you need to change your mind?
on โ10-10-2013 11:01 PM