Are Australian Children Becoming Poor White Trash?

POOR kids with English-speaking parents are being left behind at school as Asian students surge ahead, former Labor leader Mark Latham argues in a controversial new article.


That makes a decades-old slur by a foreign leader that Australians will be the "poor, white trash of Asia" even more relevant today, the ex-Labor leader writes in this month's Quarterly Essay.



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Education researcher Kevin Donnelly says children with Asian backgrounds tend to do better in Year 12 results and in selective school tests.


"There is this Confucian ethic in terms of education which is very much about respecting authority, a willingness to work hard and focus and concentrate," Dr Donnelly told news.com.au.



Jane Caro, author of What Makes A Good School, says the issue with modern parenting is that many parents have a problem with teachers imposing discipline. "The workforce is walking away from those kids in droves," she said.



I often feel that our kids go to school socially, or to be baby-sat, rather than academically.

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How well the student did in the HSC exams would give them some idea of what their score was.


 


Is the idea not to request a score so you can just slack around and not work to hard for the HSC exams?

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Why does it cause more stress? If they have to sit the HSC exams, then they might as well find out their score?


 


ATAR scores are needed for a lot more degrees/careers than Law and nursing  - Business Admin, Accounting, Engineering, Mathematics, Teaching, Vets, Dentists etc etc


 


 



 


Not all subjects fall within the auto ATAR calculation.

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Maybe i'm way off beam in my thinking but I think that achieving anything in this life is a state of mind for the individual concerned, nothing to do with race or creed, just a mindset that drives the individual to achieve, no matter if educationally or in lifeskills themselves.


Perhaps it's genetic, I really have no idea.


 


I can only speak for my own life.


I never did well at school, just scraped through with a couple of points beyond the basic level for a pass mark, but once I left and got out into the big wide world I came into my own and did what many people consider to be exceptionally well in lifeskills, so I ended up in an enviable position to the average person.


I put that down solely to the fact that I loved what I was doing and went at it with a vengence.


It didn't hurt me one iota that I married a lady who backed me all the way, even when she thought I was wrong, and more than once turned out to be, but still came bobbing up smelling of roses somehow lol.


I guess there was a healthy helping of good luck in my life too ๐Ÿ™‚


 


Leaving my own experiences aside ...


 


I think it might also push things along a lot when the ones making the best of things are also new arrivals in a country, so they feel they have to prove their own worth far more, so they go at it hell for leather, and their parents are prepared to work their guts out to provide the means to pay for the top class education.


 


Another school of thought is that when any person receives constant healthy encouragement they will usually do well, but anyone who's constantly told they're no good, worthless, or sadly lacking all the time is doomed to failure, but there again I have seen more than one person rise above such mental torture to become top dog in their chosen world of enterprise, but I would guess they would be exceptions to the general rule.


 


As I say, I really don't know enough to hazard a good guess at the reasons for why some peope do very well in life while others sink to the bottom of the life pool.


 


 

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I often feel that our kids go to school socially, or to be baby-sat, rather than academically.


 


 



Perhaps it's more that a pass doesn't mean what it once did ....the results need to be up there with the best ?


 


Overall the figures do indicate an increase in level of study 


 


 MEDIA RELEASE29 November 2012Embargo: 11.30 am (Canberra time)195/2012
Degrees and certificates more popular than ever


 http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/6227.0Media%20Release1May%202012?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=6227.0&issue=May%202012&num=&view=


 


 


Persons aged 15โ€“64 years


Total without a non-school qualification 53% in  2001 and 41% for 2012


 


Persons aged 25โ€“34 years


Total without a non-school qualification 41% in 2001 and 28% in 2012


 


 


 


 

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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/chinas-education-prepares-students-tests/story?id=12348599#.UVIeGxzI06I


 


High Test Scores, but China Education Flawed

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Not all subjects fall within the auto ATAR calculation.



 


I realise that. Students know that when they choose them though. For example, choosing 2 B type subjects (TAFE NSW T-VET) makes student ineligible for an ATAR score.


 


What were discussing here mostly is students who are eligible to apply for an ATAR score but choose not to.


 


 

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