Are Historical Miracle Stories Verifiable?

[the_bob_delusion]

Billions of people around the world believes in God(s) because they believe certain miracle stories to be true? But can you truly verify a miracle historically?

By miracle, let's define it as an intervention by a supernatural being that defies natural laws. So not just something with a very low probability like winning tattslotto twice or recovering from a deadly cancer.  

So when Christians say history points to the resurrection of Jesus which is obviously a miracle. Do you think there's sufficient evidence to prove it happened?

If you don't believe Jesus Rose from the dead, or that Mohommad flew to Heaven on a winged horse, what evidence would convince you that it did indeed happen?

[i-need-a-martini]

No evidence required for a good story created to explain the unexplainable.

[the_bob_delusion]

No evidence required for a good story created to explain the unexplainable.

If you asked most CHristians they believe that the resurrection is a historical fact. Without the Resurrection there's no CHristianity so therefore you assume they're basing it on historical evidence. But how can you possibly prove a miracle?

[azureline**]

For some, no proof will ever be enough, for others no proof is necessary.

[the_great_she_elephant]

For some, no proof will ever be enough, for others no proof is necessary.

But to be fair, Az, for most, some proof is at least desirable.

The problem with historical miracles is that we are too far removed from the time and place know what really happened and the technology which might have proved or disproved them simply wasn't available at the time.

[the_bob_delusion]

well I'm looking it from an academic point of view. 

Do you think there's good historical evidence to demonstrate that jesus bodily rosed from the dead Quilts?

I've been studying this recently and the Christian apologist say that Jesus can only raise from the dead if there's a God. My problem with that is the only reason to believe in a God is if Jesus  did raise from the dead. So it's circular reasoning.

It's like what Most Christian say. THe bible is the true word of God. How do you know? cos' the bible says so.

[the_great_she_elephant]

You could believe in God without believing in Jesus at all. Both Judaism and Islam draw heavily on the Old Testament.

[the_bob_delusion]

You could believe in God without believing in Jesus at all. Both Judaism and Islam draw heavily on the Old Testament.

But apparently they believe in different Gods. So obviously a Christian wouldn't believe Jesus rose from the dead if a CHristian God did not exist. The would logically say why would an Islamic God raise Jesus from the dead. 

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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[rabbitearbandicoot]

But apparently they believe in different Gods. So obviously a Christian wouldn't believe Jesus rose from the dead if a CHristian God did not exist. The would logically say why would an Islamic God raise Jesus from the dead. 

No Bob they both believe in the same God - the ONE GOD - they just have different names for him.