Are Historical Miracle Stories Verifiable?

[the_bob_delusion]

Billions of people around the world believes in God(s) because they believe certain miracle stories to be true? But can you truly verify a miracle historically?

By miracle, let's define it as an intervention by a supernatural being that defies natural laws. So not just something with a very low probability like winning tattslotto twice or recovering from a deadly cancer.  

So when Christians say history points to the resurrection of Jesus which is obviously a miracle. Do you think there's sufficient evidence to prove it happened?

If you don't believe Jesus Rose from the dead, or that Mohommad flew to Heaven on a winged horse, what evidence would convince you that it did indeed happen?

[the_bob_delusion]

No Bob they both believe in the same God - the ONE GOD - they just have different names for him.

Let's not debate the theology. But just look at history. There's plenty of miracles in biblical times, zero in modern times. How can any of the ancient miracles be historically verified? THis is an academic question from a historical point of view, Not theology. Theologian thinks it a historical claim, but I just don't see it. I see it as a theological claim. 

[rabbitearbandicoot]

Let's not debate the theology. But just look at history. There's plenty of miracles in biblical times, zero in modern times. How can any of the ancient miracles be historically verified? THis is an academic question from a historical point of view, Not theology. Theologian thinks it a historical claim, but I just don't see it. I see it as a theological claim. 

There are some that would debate that. 

[rabbitearbandicoot]

I notice that you ignored my questions?

Are Historical Abiogenesis Stories Verifiable?

Are Historical Evolution Stories Verifiable?

[the_bob_delusion]

I notice that you ignored my questions?

Are Historical Abiogenesis Stories Verifiable?

Are Historical Evolution Stories Verifiable?

We don't know how abiogenesis occured. How do you verify something that you don't know the answer to???

Evolution makes predictions and is falsifiable. So evolution has been verified thru archeology, morphology, molecular biology, genetic sequencing. It's so far passed every one of them. So I really don't get why you're asking such a simple question.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

"Evolution makes predictions and is falsifiable. So evolution has been verified thru archeology, morphology, molecular biology, genetic sequencing. It's so far passed every one of them. So I really don't get why you're asking such a simple question."

falsifiable - you got that right - lol.

Can you explain to me how evolution has been verified through those sciences - well, just pick one.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

"We don't know how abiogenesis occured. How do you verify something that you don't know the answer to ???"

We don't know how God created everything from nothing, but you ask for verification of that.

[the_bob_delusion]

Evolution is well accepted by the religious and non religious so I prefer to discuss the OP. If you have a better theory then by all means let's hear it. 

What I am really after is can historians show that any miracle story likely happen and what sort of evidence would be necessary? So for the non believers here, what sort of evidence would you need to be convinced that God raised Jesus from the dead?

I was watching Q and A and Fred Nile said there's historical evidence that Jesus was the son of God. I know no such evidence exist. So he is making a theological claim not historical unless someone can explain to me otherwise. 

[ufo_investigations]

Billions of people around the world believes in God(s) because they believe certain miracle stories to be true? But can you truly verify a miracle historically?

By miracle, let's define it as an intervention by a supernatural being that defies natural laws. So not just something with a very low probability like winning tattslotto twice or recovering from a deadly cancer.  

So when Christians say history points to the resurrection of Jesus which is obviously a miracle. Do you think there's sufficient evidence to prove it happened?

If you don't believe Jesus Rose from the dead, or that Mohommad flew to Heaven on a winged horse, what evidence would convince you that it did indeed happen?

The aliens put us here. No miracle. Earth is just a colony.

[the_bob_delusion]

The aliens put us here. No miracle. Earth is just a colony.

That's a good theory but you do need to explain where Aliens come from. 

[ufo_investigations]

Depends which alien family you're talking about. Some come from 3.5 light years away, others from 39 light years.