Are unions a legalized protection racket ?

[poddster]

Vote and then express your thoughts on the matter.

Perhaps you might like to let everyone know how YOU think unions work.

[*crikey*mate*]

This thread sure has gone off topic........so I shall put my own oar in......

Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country

 .........Hermann Goering

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Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.

And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.

How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar.

..........Shakespear’s  Julius Caesar.

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You said it so much better than I - and in a lot fewer words too! LOL

I meant to add to this before:

"Learn from history???? Pffft - we just get to call it a different name - then it was politics disguised as war - the players are different and the weapons have changed - but history just keeps on perpetuating itself."

Today we just call it equality - that's the propaganda they feed to us these days to keep the majority in line for a not so hidden agenda. They make the majority of us believe that we are all equal, that we are all entitled to the same things when Freaky has pointed it out that we're not - we're all different from the day we are born - unequal from the day we are born and maybe even before that - they just want us to believe that so we will blindly follow their agendas and conform to their bribes of benefits and payments so that we follow obiediently.

But the reality is that we're not all equal - and sometimes I don't even think that George Orwell got it right when he said "all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others". Some of us get all the stuff listed by Martini - some of us don't. Some of us get sick - some kids get cancer - and some people get stricken with atrocious diseases and other disasters whilst others win lotto -

So when we stop believing this equality BS - or at least that this is what those in power are trying to achieve for us - we just might get a whole heap more people facing reality and prepared to do whatever it is that they have to do to make the best of the life that they've been given instead of hiding behind some beaurocratic BS and following along like little sheep in the vain hope that some magic wand will get waved and then everyone will automatically be equal by the forced redistribution of wealth.

The only difference between now and Hitler et al is that our march to anhilation is a lot slower and more discreet - but the outcome is the same - we surrender any hope for true equality.

Equality isn't a right - it's a priviledge we have to work for - regardless of what the legislation and law makers want us to believe so that we will follow their propaganda without conflict.

[lakeland27]

'So when we stop believing this equality BS - or at least that this is what those in power are trying to achieve for us - we just might get a whole heap more people facing reality and prepared to do whatever it is that they have to do to make the best of the life that they've been given instead of hiding behind some beaurocratic BS and following along like little sheep in the vain hope that some magic wand will get waved and then everyone will automatically be equal by the forced redistribution of wealth.

The only difference between now and Hitler et al is that our march to anhilation is a lot slower and more discreet - but the outcome is the same - we surrender any hope for true equality.

Equality isn't a right - it's a priviledge we have to work for - regardless of what the legislation and law makers want us to believe so that we will follow their propaganda without conflict.'

this fascist rubbish needs consigning to the bin. i've read a lot of dross and completely stupid ideology but this is among the worst. if you believe what you say do us all a favor and emigrate.. i'm not sure where though.. no civilised society will accept this.

[lakeland27]

Almost 300 Australian veterans of British nuclear testing are making a last-ditch attempt to win compensation.

They want the Human Rights Commission to find that the Australian Government knowingly exposed them to harmful radiation by ordering them to take part in the tests in the SA outback.

While any recommendation from that action will not be binding, they are hoping to embarrass the Government into compensating them and providing medical treatment.

Many of the surviving personnel, ordered to take part in the tests at Maralinga in the 1950s and '60s, blame their medical conditions on exposure to nuclear radiation. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-21/nuclear-compo/4532954

These ex-soldiers could have used a unionised workplace, if they did the compensation would have been paid decades ago, instead of the likely never.

[izabsmiling]

Equality isn't a right - it's a priviledge we have to work for - regardless of what the legislation and law makers want us to believe so that we will follow their propaganda without conflict.'

It is a right that those who have been and are considered/treated as unequal have had to and still do work for ...unfortunately all through history some have seen themselves as entitled to privileges...and they aren't necessarily the ones who had to and still do fight for equality .

[izabsmiling]

or rather fight against inequality 

[debra9275]

What are The Ides of Mrrtch??...

[freakiness]

reminds me of that movie Ants - literally - the Formalist and Conflict theories at work and the divide between the unitaristics and the pluralists

and your last line is offensive - I do no more than what I have to do to get done what I have to get done - it devalues the work and sacrifice of people like our very own Bella or Shhhh here on the boards to make statements like that.

The line was not written to Shhh or Bella.

They were not claiming anyone can do anything and everything.

[izabsmiling]

In order to give any person that provides care the appreciation they deserve one would need to appreciate the need (and why the needs exist),the  value and benefits of what is being done and difficulties  in what they do.Whether someone cares for their own and or provide the care that others can not....the difficulties ,needs and challenges of doing so would need to be fully appreciated in all cases.I am sure that those who do it to help others know and appreciate the need for support wherever the child/person lives and where it can and may make a huge difference.They would also appreciate (as should others who want to give them their full appreciation) that some people can not do it. I have not seen Freaki post anything that indicates unequal praise .

[izabsmiling]

I have however seen the cruelest of judgments that some who should understand inflict on others.

[izabsmiling]

In the old days that was enough. It's getting increasingly difficult these days to cruise through life with one job, or two.

true and in the old days there were people who once upon a time may not have even been educated who are now not only being educated, they in out our community and also working and/or looking for work.