on โ13-04-2014 12:07 PM
There is no way I will be. I am not planning to work beyond 55!
But it won't affect people like me will it? I have my own plans and they will be self funded.
So once again, it will be those less fortunate and less able to take care of themselves who will suffer.
on โ13-04-2014 02:18 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:that begs the question if you didn;t support the rise to 67 why do you support the rise to 70 simply because it comes from abbott /hockey ? seems a bit mindless having no opinion of your own and simply putting all of your faith in the tea party liberals
i guess thinking for yourself is out ?
Maybe they should retire at 65,THEN return to work when they're 67-70.How's that sound?
on โ13-04-2014 02:19 PM
If all people will be working until they are seventy where are the volunteer coming from.
We hear how many Millions Dollars the volunteers save the government each year. As a large number of are over retirement age did Hockey factor in these extra costs.
on โ13-04-2014 02:23 PM
@grandmoon wrote:If all people will be working until they are seventy where are the volunteer coming from.
We hear how many Millions Dollars the volunteers save the government each year. As a large number of are over retirement age did Hockey factor in these extra costs.
Did labor when they actually raised the age to 67?
Hockey hasnt even done this yet the usuals are all up in arms and if it ever happens and I dont doubt that either side of govt will have do it at some stage its not going to bother or worry any of us....
Labor has actually raised the age, the libs havent....
on โ13-04-2014 02:27 PM
why do you support it ? is it blind faith or what .. you haven't explained yourself you see it must follow that if you support 70 you must have supported 67 ?
on โ13-04-2014 02:31 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:why do you support it ? is it blind faith or what .. you haven't explained yourself
you see it must follow that if you support 70 you must have supported 67 ?
Too funny, stop making sense ๐
โ13-04-2014 02:32 PM - edited โ13-04-2014 02:36 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:
that begs the question if you didn;t support the rise to 67
Who said I didnt support the rise to 67? PROOF please or are you just making an unfounded accusation?
It wasnt a popular policy at the time to take the pension to 67 for many but as I am a realist and can see past the hand outs its a policy that had to happen.
why do you support the rise to 70
Who said its actually going to go up? In reality its going to happen no matter which party in in power over the next 20 or 30 years and I doubt it will affect or worry you at all or most of us here so whats the problem?
โ13-04-2014 02:33 PM - edited โ13-04-2014 02:36 PM
@donnashuggy wrote:
Still waiting for that PROOF
on โ13-04-2014 02:38 PM
When John Howard and Peter Costello were in they were talking about raising the retirement age to 72.
That was leading up to the election they lost.
on โ13-04-2014 02:45 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:
that begs the question if you didn;t support the rise to 67 why do you support the rise to 70 simply because it comes from abbott /hockey ?
I don't support it, but I don't think it requires Chicken Little to walk the plank either
on โ13-04-2014 02:47 PM
@grandmoon wrote:When John Howard and Peter Costello were in they were talking about raising the retirement age to 72.
That was leading up to the election they lost.
They didnt do it and all govts talk about this policy or that policy, doesnโt mean it will happen and its usually called a "white paper" and thats for discussion and debate....
So I take it you are a supporter of Labors policy that raised the age to 67 starting in 2017 to 2023 then? Must be from your comments.
I am when you read the financial reasons for it and just how broken the current pension system is into the future.
We simply cant afford not to do something about it and discuss it now
You may wish to go and read these papers from TREASURY...
http://www.treasury.gov.au/PublicationsAndMedia/Speeches/2014/Fiscal_sustainability
and this one http://www.pc.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/129749/ageing-australia.pdf
Not sure how we will afford the pension or the never ending welfare in decades to come..