on โ02-07-2015 04:21 PM
I was not aware that assisted suicide was allowed by law in some areas of USA. Oregon is one state which allows it. Are there any others?
How long before it is allowed here?
This story might be of interest to some. "The Last Day of Her Life"
on โ06-07-2015 09:24 AM
on โ06-07-2015 10:06 AM
Can I ask, why you made that statement?
.... whats makes them misguided?
Because euthanasia is carried out without permission of the recipient.
Voluntary Euthanasia has to be requested by the person who desires it, not by a second or third party.
The expression VE is used by all dying with dignity organisations..
on โ06-07-2015 01:56 PM
There are two types of euthanasia - voluntary and involuntary.
on โ06-07-2015 03:07 PM
@lind9650 wrote:And yet, it is happening and has happened for many years.
30 years ago my mother-in-law was a the end stage of terminal cancer. She was in agony and often delirious The Doctors decided to increase the dosage of Morphine gradually. Few hours later, she passed away peacefully.
25 Years ago my dear father had a massive brain heamorage. He was at my home at that time. When the Doctor arrived (who was a friend of my father and knew him well.) he told me that he could call the Ambulance to take my father to Hospital, but that there was nothing Doctors could do. If they savd his life, he would be a vegetable, depending on life support.
I knew that my highly intelligent father never wanted to be kept in such state and asked the Doctor to go by my fathers wishes.
After giving my father an injection, while I held him in my arms, the Doctor waited a little time, then told me that I could let go of my father, he had peacefully gone.
Most Doctors are strictly following the rules, especially today where many try to sue Doctors and Hospitals.
Some Doctors are compassionate enough to know what torture it can be to keep a terminally ill person alive.
Erica
Erica, that happened to my mother and my father amost identically. My mother, in 1968 after a massive brain heamorage and my father 21 years ago with cancer. I was nursing my father at home in 1984 as was his wish and after he lost all his senses and was calling out for his mother and struggling to breathe I called the family doctor. To this day I don't know why but I called all the relevant family members to gather as well. The doctor asked us to leave the room and then after a few minutes asked us to come back in. Within 10 minutes my dad passed away and we were all with him. The doctor didn't ask us what we wanted and took it upon himself to administer the dose. However, it was the right thing to do as the only other alternative was to hospitalise him and delay the inevitable for a few more days.
With my mother, and I acknowledge it was a different time back then, she was 36, she was rushed to hospital and they asked my father what he wanted done as she would have been permanently comatose and had very little hope of survival. My father made the decision to let her go and after an injection she only lasted a few hours. I was only a child then and wasn't privy to the conversation, only what my father told me in later years, but still remember my father's face when talking to the doctors. As she was so young it would have been very unfair to allow her to continue in the state she was in.
It has been going on for years and while these days I would ask a lot of questions, I still think everyone has the right to choose their own end and it has nothing to do with doctors, government policy or religion.
on โ06-07-2015 04:13 PM
Mr Elephant and are about to give our daughter an "enduring power of guardianship" which means that should we become incapable of making decisions about medical treatment and procedures for ourselves (or each other) she will have the legal right to do so for us. If voluntary euthanasia ever becomes legal we would seek to add a clause empowering her to make this decision too. It is a very big responsibility to put on her shoulders and we are both so grateful that she has agreed to accept it. We talked about it very carefully with her before deciding to going ahead.
on โ06-07-2015 04:56 PM
Very wise move She ele. I'm currently putting together all the info my kids will need such as pre paid funeral contact info etc. Even though I've told them over and over that i have it I doubt they would know what to do once the time comes. Having had a couple of ticker attacks I reckon I should get it sorted sooner rather than later.
You've prompted me to look at the enduring power issue too as even though we've discussed it there is nothing in writing so thanks for that. Ultimately though it's something difficult to discuss now it will make things easier for them down the track won't it.
on โ06-07-2015 04:57 PM
The Queensland form requires the Health Attorney/s (and arguably medical staff) to follow the wishes of the Principal whether or not they agree with those wishes. So I don't see it as a huge responsibility because they are abiding by the detailed clauses. It would be difficult to have an attorney who has opposite views, but they legally have to do what is written.
on โ06-07-2015 05:01 PM
It's interesting isn't it Polks. I remember a documentary of this a while ago where they were looking at the expense of keeping people on life support when there was no hope of recovery. Even though the person on life support had given specific instructions, doctors and family were going against their wishes as well as families going against doctors wishes. It's a hard one all right.
Does that apply in all states or only Queensland?
on โ06-07-2015 05:52 PM
@polksaladallie wrote:The Queensland form requires the Health Attorney/s (and arguably medical staff) to follow the wishes of the Principal whether or not they agree with those wishes. So I don't see it as a huge responsibility because they are abiding by the detailed clauses. It would be difficult to have an attorney who has opposite views, but they legally have to do what is written.
It wasn't the legal ramifications I was thinking of, Polks. It's the responsibility DD is taking on of making a life or death decision on our behalf when we can't tell her what we really want..
โ06-07-2015 07:42 PM - edited โ06-07-2015 07:43 PM
SheEl, I have in place an Advanced Care Directive, which is a legal document either authorising or not authorising actions in certain hospital situations. This is a recognised document, and critical if you are unable to communicate.
Many hospitals ask those being admitted if they have an ACD. My daughter has a copy of my ACD which removes any stress she may suffer making a decision for me