Asylum seeker handouts scrapped: Australian taxpayers to save $25 million a Year

[nero_bolt]

Long over due and the only people that will be crying is the lawyers that were bleeding the system  and the bleeding heart lefties..

Why should our tax  money pay for illegals with no papers to rort the system 

Well done Scott Morrision

TAXPAYERS will save $25 million a year after the Abbott government today scraps free immigration assistance to ­asylum seekers.

Immigration Minister Scott Morrison last night said Australia’s protection obligations did not extend to providing free immigration help to those who arrived in Australia ­illegally.

He said, as promised before the election, that from today, people who arrived illegally by boat or air would no longer be helped through the Immigration Advice and Application Assistance Scheme.

But he said the withdrawal of the taxpayer help would not prevent people receiving legal assistance, saying those who wished to provide immigration advice and application assistance pro bono were free to do so.

The government continues to roll out its Operation ­Sovereign Borders suite of policies after notching at the weekend 100 days without a successful people smuggling venture making it to Australia. The government expects the withdrawal of the free assistance will save the budget $100 million over four years

If people choose to violate how Australia chooses to run our refugee and humanitarian program, they should not presume upon the support and assistance that is provided to those who seek to come the right way, and they should certainly not receive additional assistance, as they did under the previous government,’’ Mr Morrison said.

‘‘Services that have commenced will be ­completed, but the IAAAS will not continue for any additional part of the process that would incur an additional fee

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/asylum-seeker-handouts-scrapped-australian-taxpayers-to-save-25...

[lakeland27]

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@diamond-halo wrote:

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@boris1gary wrote:

"every thing really is ok with the world" - not for asylum seekers, regardless of the simplistic responses to another cruel act of this government - eh

But international standards written by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) say the right to legal advice during the claims process is an “essential safeguard”.

“Asylum seekers are often unable to articulate the elements relevant to an asylum claim without the assistance of a qualified counsellor because they are not familiar with the precise grounds for the recognition of refugee status and the legal system of a foreign country,” the UNHCR says.

I understand that this is not good, but we have people in Australia who do not know basic legal stuff and cannot get access to adequate representation.What does the UNHCR say about the rights of the legal citizens of a country?

But Rachel Ball, director of advocacy and campaigns at the Human Rights Law Centre in Melbourne, told Guardian Australia the department had already refused an offer to provide asylum seekers with a list of free legal services.

“There is a limited number of services that can provide pro bono assistance and they can’t possibly meet the demand. This is not a case where providers are competing with each other for lucrative business; they’re providing the services for free,” she said.

“Access to justice is a fundamental human right – there’s been a longstanding commitment from successive governments to provide legal assistance to asylum seekers in recognition of this right and that legal assistance assures an effective refugee status determination process,” she said.

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Yes. Yes it is. So why isn't that right being extended to Australian citizens?

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well it was  (available to aust citizens ) however state governments fund legal aid, and a number of those state governments have cut it since coming to power. victoria is one. with the cuts police found holding cells full as the more ethical judges were reluctant to hear cases where the accused had no representation. in that respect conservative governments are consistent. they deny representation to both asylum seekers and people who cant afford lawyers. here there is more pro bono work than they can realistically keep up with.

[just_me_karen]

Clarify for me, are you saying you approve of our government removing access to legal assistance from asylum seekers?

[izabsmiling]

If they have no option but to represent themselves ..they have less chance of being able to prove that they are in genuine need of Asylum.(which  isn't  always easy anyway)

they can then be returned to where they came from.

[just_me_karen]

They're not allowed to represent themselves.

Firstly, they're locked under armed guard in concentration camps, a long way from court. They actually cannot get to court.

Secondly, it's highly unlikely they'd know Australian law, especially after recent multiple changes.

The criminal australian government is offering them a choice. Death or death. Drown at sea or be locked in a concentration camp forever, or be sent back home for another dose of death.

I wonder if Morisson's supporters will stick up for them kicking the official lawyer off manus today. The one lawyer they had is currently flying back to Australia.

And I wonder if they're astute enough to see the conflict of interest, where the immigration department is forcibly removing asylum seekers from being able to make a privacy breach complaint. Where else in Australia is it ok for one side of a legal matter to ban the other from attending court?

[*crikey*mate*]

Do you approve of Australian citizens not receiving adequate legal representation?

How about food, health care, disability assistance or education? Do you agree with australian citizens having adequate access to any of these?

[izabsmiling]

It's all so wrong Karen .In our Country..In our name 

ASIO warned over blocking refugee access to lawyers

Date February 4, 2014

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/asio-warned-over-blocking-refugee-access-to-la...

[just_me_karen]

This thread is about asylum seekers.

Australians can get legal assistance, (except if they're aboriginal).

What's the answer to my questions?

[izabsmiling]

diamond halo , these people are in our care ..just as everyone else in our care .

That's what we pay taxes for.

Stop the entitlememts to the Gina's here and OS .

Let them pay their taxes ...mining and carbon 

they don't need our charity 

[*crikey*mate*]

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@just_me_karen wrote:
They're not allowed to represent themselves.

Firstly, they're locked under armed guard in concentration camps, a long way from court. They actually cannot get to court.

Secondly, it's highly unlikely they'd know Australian law, especially after recent multiple changes.

The criminal australian government is offering them a choice. Death or death. Drown at sea or be locked in a concentration camp forever, or be sent back home for another dose of death.

I wonder if Morisson's supporters will stick up for them kicking the official lawyer off manus today. The one lawyer they had is currently flying back to Australia.

And I wonder if they're astute enough to see the conflict of interest, where the immigration department is forcibly removing asylum seekers from being able to make a privacy breach complaint. Where else in Australia is it ok for one side of a legal matter to ban the other from attending court?

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hmmm, why was Jay Williams deported from PNG?

Could you please provide the source of the claims that you make in this post? They are very interesting.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@just_me_karen wrote:
This thread is about asylum seekers.

Australians can get legal assistance, (except if they're aboriginal).

What's the answer to my questions?

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Not all Australians can get access to legal assistance for no cost.

You forgot to say please or extend any kind of courtesy, BTW.