At last, Abbott calling a spade a spade re terrorists and the legal system, bail

[vicr3000]

At last, Abbott calling a spade a spade re terrorists and the legal system, bail

'Bad people' treating us as mugs: Abbott's national security warning

There will be no more "benefit of the doubt" for those who might be seeking to harm Australia, says Prime Minister Tony Abbott, who believes Australians are being played "for mugs".

"It's clear to me that for too long we have given those who might be a threat to our country the benefit of the doubt," he said on the video.

"There's been the benefit of the doubt at our borders, the benefit of the doubt for residency, the benefit of the doubt for citizenship and the benefit of the doubt at Centrelink.

"And in the courts, there has been bail, when clearly there should have been jail.

"We are a free and fair nation. But that doesn't mean we should let bad people play us for mugs, and all too often they have. Well, that's going to stop."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bad-people-treating-us-as-mugs-abbotts-nationa...


The bags guys playing us for mugs, helped by the People who put their human rights before everyone else's.

[debra9275]

I wonder if it will give him a boost in the polls? That's all I think about it really

[vicr3000]

It might.

I hadn't thought about that because National Security tends to be bi partisan.
I don't know at what point Shorten is briefed on it.

[gleee58]

or it could be his way of getting Jacqui Lambie and her supporters onside.

[para-slights]

It's good to be actively vigilant against possible terrorists attacks as long as there's a clear distinction between what defines the guilty and the innocent, that what is the act of individuals is not confused as the act of a whole people. I certainly don;t want Australia to go down the same shameful road as America did with their forced Japanese internment camps regardless of innocence.

[pct001wine]

para, it happened in Australia during WW1 and WW2.

http://naa.gov.au/collection/snapshots/internment-camps/index.aspx

[para-slights]

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@pct001wine wrote:

para, it happened in Australia during WW1 and WW2.

http://naa.gov.au/collection/snapshots/internment-camps/index.aspx

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There you go, thanks pct now I hope we don't revert to our own sordid past again

[vicr3000]

Para

No problems with that, i think we can sort the individual from the collective.

And the guilty, innocent.

I also think those that preach need to be curtailed.


Re internment, every country did it, UK, USA, Australia, Germany.
We just put them to work in the fields. In the Uk, the Italians were the only men who worked on farms.
(And probably others as well)

[ambercat16]

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@para-slights wrote:

It's good to be actively vigilant against possible terrorists attacks as long as there's a clear distinction between what defines the guilty and the innocent, that what is the act of individuals is not confused as the act of a whole people. I certainly don;t want Australia to go down the same shameful road as America did with their forced Japanese internment camps regardless of innocence.

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At the time America had internment camps for Japanese, didn't Australia also have internment camps for Germans and Japanese?

During the First and Second World Wars, nationals of countries at war with Australia who were living in Australia were classed as “enemy aliens”. Included as enemy aliens were naturalised British subjects who were born in enemy countries, Australian-born descendants of migrants born in enemy countries and others who were thought to pose a threat to Australia's security.

Australia interned almost 7,000 people during the First World War. About 4,500 were enemy aliens and British nationals of German ancestry already resident in Australia.

During the Second World War, Japanese residents were interned en masse. Germans and Italians were also interned on the basis of their nationality. Australia interned about 7,000 residents, including more than 1,500 British nationals. A further 8,000 people were sent to Australia to be interned after being detained overseas by Australia's allies. In 1942, more than 12,000 people were interned in Australia.

[j*oono]

They must have done.  Remember in the show the Sullivans the german shop keeper and his wife were interned. Yes I know it's not real but it was all based on reality.

[j*oono]

Or should that be interred? Mental blank.