on 14-01-2015 08:30 AM
Job snobs: Aussie dole bludgers too lazy to pick up $250 a day picking fruit
YOUNG, jobless Aussies are lazy and unwilling to break their welfare dependence, according to leading wine producers and citrus growers who are becoming ever more reliant on backpackers to stay in operation.
Despite an urgent need for unskilled workers, regional Australia is struggling to attract young people from the city despite youth unemployment in Western Sydney peaking at 17 per cent, forcing growers in the nation’s food bowls to look overseas.
Wine growers in the Hunter Valley who still rely heavily on fruit pickers, claim there has been no interest from unemployed youth in Sydney to earn easy cash — up to $250 a day — picking grapes, as the region prepares for today’s official start of the 2015 harvest.
So it is backpackers or bust, with several operators claiming without the injection of foreign workers, many wine producers in the Hunter Valley would cease to exist.
‘‘We would probably be stuffed without them. The problem is, our unemployed don’t have to work, it’s too easy for them, plus a lot of them come with baggage; real problems,’’ winemaker and former chairman of the Hunter Valley Wine Industry Association’s viticulture committee Ken Bray said.
‘‘They are too reliant on welfare and don’t want to go where the jobs are.’’
While most of Drayton Wines grapes are picked by a mechanical harvester, manager John Drayton said the winery still uses backpackers to pick from older vines.
He, like Andrew Pengilly from Tyrrells Wines, rarely gets interest from locals or those struggling to find work two hours away in Sydney.
‘‘Should unemployed youth be coming up here to pick? Well, I’m a bit old school. Yes of course. A lot of people are saying that up here,’’ Mr Drayton said.
‘‘But that is the feeling about the whole society. People are unwilling to work.”
Across the state’s Riverina, the food bowl of NSW, the need for unskilled workers continues undiminished, despite it qualifying for the Howard government initiative to give foreigners an extension to their working visa if they work three months in rural Australia.
While the need for workers grows, the appeal for unemployed city residents appears non-existent.
‘‘There are definitely a lot of opportunities in rural Australia, but it seems people think the change would be too stressful.
“We don’t have fast food joints open 24 hours a day, or big shopping centres,’’ Griffith orange grower Vito Mancini said.
‘‘Just come out for a month, try it out. Don’t say there is no work about, because there is plenty.’’
Fellow Griffith farmer David Dissegna said: ‘‘The unemployed don’t want to do this kind of work. We would be in dire straits without foreign workers.’’
Fruit growers are not the only business owners lobbying the government to relax 417 visa restrictions, ahead of the tabling of the Northern Australia Development whitepaper next month.
In regional Queensland backpackers are keeping towns afloat.
‘‘We’ll give a job to anyone who’ll pull on a pair of work boots and have a go,’’ McKinley roadhouse owner Aidan Day, 65, said.
The number of working holiday visas has grown by a third since 2008 and visas for 18-to-30-year-olds are being fast-tracked to 48 hours.
BACKPACKERS UP FOR HARD WORK IN OZ
IN Germany Denny Spaeth sits behind a desk working in a car manufacturing plant, but in Australia he is a man of the land, driving a forklift and heaving pumpkins out of the ground.
Mr Spaeth and girlfriend Jennifer Herde, a kindergarten teacher, are among the flood of European backpackers who earn travelling money working as fruitpickers. They are not afraid of a hard day’s work.
The couple arrived in Australia in August and worked for two months in Ayr, near Townsville, picking pumpkins, watermelons and squash. Mr Spaeth was able to earn $23 an hour driving a forklift.
The couple will spend the next month pricking grapes in the Hunter Valley. Mr Spaeth said they had loved their time Down Under and working on farms was hard but satisfying work.
“It’s life experience. You learn a lot about yourself and it would not be bad for young people,” he said.
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on 14-01-2015 09:35 AM
on 14-01-2015 09:39 AM
@icyfroth wrote:
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
10 hours at $4 an hour according to one picker....... what are they given on the doll?
That would be the base rate. After that you'd get paid per amount picked.
There is no base hourly rate. These jobs pay piece rates, either by kilo, container or bin.
on 14-01-2015 09:41 AM
Another day, another attack on "dole bludgers" by newscorpse.
on 14-01-2015 09:44 AM
I don't see discussing the unemployment of this country as an attack, or has free speech just got another kick in the .........
on 14-01-2015 09:47 AM
@idlewhile wrote:I don't see discussing the unemployment of this country as an attack, or has free speech just got another kick in the .........
Did you not read the OP?
Read it and see how it refers to the unemployed as lazy, good for nothings that refuse to work. Not all are in the position to take picking work hours from home.
14-01-2015 09:48 AM - edited 14-01-2015 09:49 AM
Mr Spaeth sits behind a desk at a car manufacturing plant in Germany.So why is he allowed to drive a forklift in Australia?.Did he get a forklift licence as soon as he landed here? Good luck picking fruit in the Hunter.Practically all of it is machine harvested.
on 14-01-2015 09:49 AM
@icyfroth wrote:
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
10 hours at $4 an hour according to one picker....... what are they given on the doll?
That would be the base rate. After that you'd get paid per amount picked.
No it wouldn't...you get paid by either the hr or so much per kilo...depending on what you pick.
I know this because we used to manage a smallcrops farm and I earnt $8 per hr picking zucchini, squash, tomatoes etc but if I was picking beans it was 50cents per kilo...that was a few years ago but the same thing applies now...wages are a bit higher now but not that much that anyone would earn $250 per day.
When you think about it it they had 100 pickers and bigger places would have that many, earning that much per day that is $25,000 per hr they would be paying wages...or $1250000 per week if they worked $10 per day for 5 days and a lot of places work 7 days a week...so that would be another $500,000...somehow I don't think so.
on 14-01-2015 09:54 AM
on 14-01-2015 09:59 AM
@myoclon1cjerk wrote:Mr Spaeth sits behind a desk at a car manufacturing plant in Germany.So why is he allowed to drive a forklift in Australia?.Did he get a forklift licence as soon as he landed here? Good luck picking fruit in the Hunter.Practically all of it is machine harvested.
What's that got to do with the topic?
Seeing you can drive anywhere in most countries of Europe on your Aussie licence, why wouldn't a german forklift licence be valid here?
Assuming this is not his first visit to Australia, it's possible he got a forklift licence at an earlier time.
picky picky?
14-01-2015 10:01 AM - edited 14-01-2015 10:02 AM
@wilk1149 wrote:
Has anyone here ever actually worked fir piece rate. I have many times and it is very hard to make money at a consist rate. Especially for weeks on end. Injury is inevitable. Most particularly repetitive strain. This is often really prevalent fir those that are new at the job. These jobs are many kilometres from home requiring accommodation costs to be met on top of paying a mortgage and all the other bills at home. All I have to show for years of working piece rate is a credit card bill I can't afford to pay now
Not to mention having to work in all weather, rain, hail or shine.
I have picked beans in mud literally up to my thighs, in 40C heat and on mornings so cold that I had chilblains.
Having to either go iinto the bushes if you need to go to the toilet, or use a stinky portable outdoor one.
Spiders, snakes, my late husband was bitten by a snake when we were picking zucchinis, flies and every creepy crawlie know to man.
I challenge each and every person who has never done this work to do just ONE day and then see what they think.