Aussie dole bludgers too lazy to Work

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Job snobs: Aussie dole bludgers too lazy to pick up $250 a day picking fruit

 

 

YOUNG, jobless Aussies are lazy and unwilling to break their welfare dependence, ­according to leading wine producers and citrus growers who are becoming ever more reliant on backpackers to stay in operation

 

Despite an urgent need for unskilled workers, regional Australia is struggling to ­attract young people from the city despite youth unemployment in Western Sydney peaking at 17 per cent, forcing growers in the nation’s food bowls to look overseas.

 

Wine growers in the Hunter Valley who still rely heavily on fruit pickers, claim there has been no interest from ­unemployed youth in Sydney to earn easy cash — up to $250 a day — picking grapes, as the region prepares for today’s official start of the 2015 harvest.

 

So it is backpackers or bust, with several operators claiming without the injection of foreign workers, many wine producers in the Hunter Valley would cease to exist.

 

‘‘We would probably be stuffed without them. The problem is, our unemployed don’t have to work, it’s too easy for them, plus a lot of them come with baggage; real problems,’’ winemaker and former chairman of the Hunter Valley Wine Industry Association’s viticulture committee Ken Bray said.

 

‘‘They are too reliant on welfare and don’t want to go where the jobs are.’’

 

While most of Drayton Wines grapes are picked by a mechanical harvester, manager John Drayton said the winery still uses backpackers to pick from older vines.

 

He, like Andrew Pengilly from Tyrrells Wines, rarely gets ­interest from locals or those struggling to find work two hours away in Sydney.

 

 

 

‘‘Should unemployed youth be coming up here to pick? Well, I’m a bit old school. Yes of course. A lot of people are saying that up here,’’ Mr Drayton said.

 

‘‘But that is the feeling about the whole society. People are ­unwilling to work.”

 

Across the state’s Riverina, the food bowl of NSW, the need for unskilled workers continues undiminished, despite it qualifying for the Howard government initiative to give foreigners an ­extension to their working visa if they work three months in rural Australia.

 

While the need for workers grows, the appeal for ­unemployed city residents appears non-existent.

 

‘‘There are definitely a lot of opportunities in rural Australia, but it seems people think the change would be too stressful.

 

“We don’t have fast food joints open 24 hours a day, or big shopping centres,’’ Griffith orange grower Vito Mancini said.

 

‘‘Just come out for a month, try it out. Don’t say there is no work about, because there is plenty.’’

 

Fellow Griffith farmer David Dissegna said: ‘‘The unemployed don’t want to do this kind of work. We would be in dire straits without foreign workers.’’

 

Fruit growers are not the only business owners lobbying the government to relax 417 visa restrictions, ahead of the tabling of the Northern Australia Development whitepaper next month.

 

In regional Queensland backpackers are keeping towns afloat.

 

‘‘We’ll give a job to anyone who’ll pull on a pair of work boots and have a go,’’ McKinley roadhouse owner Aidan Day, 65, said.

 

The number of working holiday visas has grown by a third since 2008 and visas for 18-to-30-year-olds are being fast-tracked to 48 hours.

 

 BACKPACKERS UP FOR HARD WORK IN OZ

 

 

 

IN Germany Denny Spaeth sits ­behind a desk working in a car manufacturing plant, but in ­Australia he is a man of the land, driving a forklift and heaving ­pumpkins out of the ground.

 

Mr Spaeth and girlfriend Jennifer Herde, a kindergarten teacher, are among the flood of European backpackers who earn travelling money working as fruitpickers. They are not afraid of a hard day’s work.

 

The couple arrived in Australia in August and worked for two months in Ayr, near Townsville, picking pumpkins, watermelons and squash. Mr Spaeth was able to earn $23 an hour driving a forklift.

 

The couple will spend the next month pricking grapes in the ­Hunter Valley. Mr Spaeth said they had loved their time Down Under and working on farms was hard but satisfying work.

 

“It’s life experience. You learn a lot about yourself and it would not be bad for young people,” he said.

 

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/job-snobs-aussie-dole-bludgers-too-lazy-to-pick-up-250-a-d...

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to myoclon: ref  Je suis Rupert.   ....Smiley LOL

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I live in a small regional town.

Seasonal work, the local unemployed whinge when the Koreans and backpackers come in.

Truth is the vistors work longer, harder, faster and don't need weekends and bithdays off, can work and cope with repetitive work under more extreme conditions. And, the bonus for farmers, often overlooked in this argument is that they're often far more intelligent than local unemployed.

 

As for payment...

They seem to do okay, no way do they get $4 an hour. They get to send bucketloads of money back home.

But they work 50- 60 hours a week in season, something the locals dont consider in their scoffing.

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@ten*teeny*tiny*toes wrote:

I live in a small regional town.

Seasonal work, the local unemployed whinge when the Koreans and backpackers come in.

Truth is the vistors work longer, harder, faster and don't need weekends and bithdays off, can work and cope with repetitive work under more extreme conditions. And, the bonus for farmers, often overlooked in this argument is that they're often far more intelligent than local unemployed.

And they get to send bucketloads of money back home.


Very few would earn $250 a day if any.I am not the best picker in the world but I am a long long way from the worst.

I can pick a bin an hour on ladder work on oranges.In cold weather on a fair crop I can pick 8 a day.I have pick nine.$25.00 a bin.

In summer I can pick 6 between 6am and midday.After that it is too hot.There is not many that can pick more than that.

The overseas workers have destroyed the industry.

They all want to be contractors.They dont pay any tax and farms are picked by groups of 20 or more.The days of the picker getting a job staying there a month or 6 weeks and moving to the next farm are gone.'

But to say thy are on the dole and lazy and can $250 a day is a joke.

There is no superannuation.No flexi day.No holiday pay.No sickness day.No wet weather pay.A young bloke that has never picked would never earn $250 a day.More likely $50 on a long day.Before people judge go and get a picking bag and go and pick some oranges.

Me I like it.I am my own boss more or less.I can sit down when I want.Go home when I want.If i only feel like picking 4 I can.If I want to do 6 I can.But it is not for everyone.

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@ten*teeny*tiny*toes wrote:

I live in a small regional town.

 

Seasonal work, the local unemployed whinge when the Koreans and backpackers come in.

Truth is the vistors work longer, harder, faster and don't need weekends and bithdays off, can work and cope with repetitive work under more extreme conditions.

 

Because they need and want the money. Backpackers to top up their travelling expenses, Koreans, Tongans -  probably because they don't get welfare at home and travelling overseas is worth it.

Funny how ppl can afford to travel from overseas for the work but Sydney ppl can't travel even interstate.

 

And, the bonus for farmers, often overlooked in this argument is that they're often far more intelligent than local unemployed

 

How do you know? Does it require an IQ test?

 

And they get to send bucketloads of money back home.

 

Families don't need it in Aus because so many are on government benefits of some sort.


 

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@ten*teeny*tiny*toes wrote:

I live in a small regional town.

Seasonal work, the local unemployed whinge when the Koreans and backpackers come in.

Truth is the vistors work longer, harder, faster and don't need weekends and bithdays off, can work and cope with repetitive work under more extreme conditions. And, the bonus for farmers, often overlooked in this argument is that they're often far more intelligent than local unemployed.

 

As for payment...

They seem to do okay, no way do they get $4 an hour. They get to send bucketloads of money back home.

But they work 50- 60 hours a week in season, something the locals dont consider in their scoffing.


 I mentioned $4 per hour for 10 hours as it was quoted from a link I have provided, advertising fruit picking to backpackers.

 

The person I quoted was paid per bin filled.... that worked out to $4 per hour......



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@paintsew007 wrote:

to myoclon: ref  Je suis Rupert.   ....Smiley LOL


I think this and the original post are offensive. And there are a number of reasons why, which will tell you why I CHOOSE not to report.

 

The French have a long history of satrical revue of current issues. England used to as well, but the French have always kept it up.

 

People were killed because they didn't tow the line to some people's ideology.  Civilised people don't do that, they argue with words, not bullets.

 

The fact that some people posting here think it's okay to joke about is just appalling.

 

 

But I won't report it. 

 

Because, you have the right to. I may not like it, appreciate it, find it funny, but you have the right to. That's what Je suis Charlie stands for.

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Get a grip. I know that. Suggest you Dr G 'irony' and 'satire' nr

I loathe Rupert Murdochs ideals and actions I fully support freedom of speech and genuine journalists.....

 

report me for what exactly?

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Before I decipher all the blue print....Only replying to one of your questions Icy Smiley Very Happy

 

IQ - backpackers from all sorts of backgrounds, uni, banking just paying their way for the holiday of a lifetime.

 

We took in a backpacker once, hated the experience btw, but I think in a season she sent at least 10 grand home.

 

Yes, heaps of money goes out. Heaps

 

 

 

 

 

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@paintsew007 wrote:

Get a grip. I know that. Suggest you Dr G 'irony' and 'satire' nr

I loathe Rupert Murdochs ideals and actions I fully support freedom of speech and genuine journalists.....

 

report me for what exactly?


Thanks for the suggestion. I guess it took you a while to Dr G yourself (how stupid does that sound?)

 

Freedom of speech applies across the board, not just about what you want to hear or read.

 

And don't start me.

 

 

 

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Paint

I loathe Rupert Murdochs ideals and actions"


I loathe the ideals and actions of people like Sarah Hanson young and others of that ilk.

At least murdoch built something through hard work and doesnt live in cloud cuckoo land like SHY
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