Australia Post and Medibank To Be Sold Off?

ACCC chairman Sims argues the benefits of privatisation

 

An article in this morning's Australian Financial Review, based on an interview with Mr Sims, says that he has called for Federal Government to sell Medibank Private and Australia Post.

However, Mr Sims has told News Radio that he was not advocating for the sale of particular Government-owned businesses.

 

"Australia Post, that's really an issue for government, I was making a general point this morning, and I'll really leave it at that," he told News Radio's Marius Benson.

 

"I think there are direct experiences you can draw from the energy sector, but I've really got no parallel from which to comment on Australia Post, or Medibank Private for that matter.

 

"Mr Sims adds, however, that the only good reason for government ownership is because it has particular social objectives in mind.

"If all you're after is maximum efficiency then there's no question that you'd have those assets owned by the private sector," he argued.

"If you're continuing to own them by government, then that's because you've got some social objective to achieve."If you have a social objective, it's worth specifying what that is, and I suspect there's probably more direct ways to achieve that social objective".

 

 Martin O'Nea, the national assistant secretary of the Communication Workers Union says " Australia Post hasreturned more than $800 million in dividends to taxpayers over the past three years.

 

He also warns that Australia Post's less profitable but socially useful services, such as relatively affordable and timely mail and parcel deliveries to rural and regional Australia, would likely suffer if it was privatised

 

."With a privatised Australia Post, would them services that people have seen in the past three years remain the same?" Mr O'Nea asked rhetorically."We'd venture that the experience that regional and rural Australia have had with privatisation in the past would leave them to believe that it certainly wouldn't.

"That is a view shared by the Post Office Agents Association Limited, which represents the owners and operators of licensed post offices, which make up around 75 per cent of Australia Post's network.

 

"A privatised postal operator would focus on the main population centres at the expense of customers in rural Australia," said its chief executive Ian Kerr.

 

The association says it received assurances from both major parties ahead of last year's federal election that neither had plans to privatise Australia Post.

 

The Government has launched a scoping study into the possible sale of Medibank Private, which is due to report next month.

 

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Poor Aussies, so far in debt we'll have to sell off our remaining assets soon, and then how will we repay our loans if all our jobs go overseas or to foreign workers?

 

 

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 icy - why do you think Australia's debt is huge and unmanageable when it is around 33% of GDP (Gross Domestic Product).

Why do are you focusing on the debt only and not Australia's ability to repay it?

 

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US public debt $17 trillion, that's $1,48,747 for each US taxpayer. Its a whopping 107% of GDP.

EU national debt amounts to 87% of GDP,

UK 66.1%

while Japan owes a massive 200% plus.

 

Spain's Debt % to GDP is near 100%, unemployment rate is 50%. 

 

New Zealands debt % is slighter higher (35%) than Australia's. -New Zealand's economy will prosper in 2014 as financial experts predict it will be a 'goldenyear for the country... no doom and gloom, the country is ruined, our debt is too high there.

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We live in a global economy.

 

We are never going to go backwards to all Australian owned companies and manufacturing all our own goods.

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@icyfroth wrote:

@boris1gary wrote:

who is being crucified? Do you mean the miners - as in those who actually go underground and risk their life/health or are you talking about the mine owners who really do nothing but own. If the latter let them go, they can't take the land/mines with them, maybe we could nationalise them then and really share in the wealth.


There is no way foreign investors are going to walk away from our natural and mineral resources.

There's to much of it and too much wealth to be gained from it and there's no way they're going to let Aussies have it all to themselves.

 If any government tries to tax them too much or impose other regulations, they'll find ways of getting around it.

 

The only time they'll walk away is when they've logged all the forests, fished out our oceans and mined out all the craters they've blown into the ground.

 


I find it rather confusing  that you say that while constantly defending those who are undoing all the protections of the same.

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Would you rather China doesn't import any coal from Australia, icy? We could keep it all to ourselves.

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@am*3 wrote:

 icy - why do you think Australia's debt is huge and unmanageable when it is around 33% of GDP (Gross Domestic Product).

Why do are you focusing on the debt only and not Australia's ability to repay it?

 

Because the debt is rising and assets that have been sold to pay previous deficits are no longer available. Because many of our resources are in foreign hands.

 

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US public debt $17 trillion, that's $1,48,747 for each US taxpayer. Its a whopping 107% of GDP.

 

Sorry Am but I find no comfort in that.

Look at the trouble the US is in. Public services have been cut as seen in the debacle they had recently re their own debt-ceiling raising debacle. Cities like Detroit are in decay, others are in decline. States like California have been bankrupt.

 

EU national debt amounts to 87% of GDP,

 

And look at the trouble they're in over there with Greece having been bailed out a cpl times and still doubtful whether they'll ever be able to pay their debts. Simmering resentment toward Germany for having bailed them out and now putting austerity measures on them.

Cyprus bank accounts having been confiscated by the banks as bail-in.

 

 

UK 66.1%

 

Not looking good

 

while Japan owes a massive 200% plus.

 

Maybe they should stop subsidising their whaling fleet (which has recently been busted whaling in the Souther Ocean Whale Sanctuary, I mean how desperate are they?) and sell off some of their stockpiled whale meat

 

Spain's Debt % to GDP is near 100%, unemployment rate is 50%. 

 

Also due to heavy overseas borrowing and irresponsible spending, I believe.

 

New Zealands debt % is slighter higher (35%) than Australia's. -New Zealand's economy will prosper in 2014 as financial experts predict it will be a 'goldenyear for the country... no doom and gloom, the country is ruined, our debt is too high there.

 

Really?

 

From Wikipedia

 

New Zealand welcomes and encourages foreign investment without discrimination. The Overseas Investment Commission (OIC) must, however, consent to foreign investments that would control 25% or more of businesses or property worth more than NZ$50 million.

Restrictions and approval requirements also apply to certain investments in land and in the commercial fishing industry. In practice, OIC approval requirements have not hindered investment.

OIC consent is based on a national interest determination, but no performance requirements are attached to foreign direct investment after consent is given.

Full remittance of profits and capital is permitted through normal banking channels.

 

This free investment by foreign capital has also been criticised. Groups like Campaign Against Foreign Control of Aotearoa (CAFCA) consider that New Zealand's economy is substantially overseas-owned, noting that direct ownership of New Zealand companies by foreign parties increased from $9.7 billion in 1989 to $83 billion in 2007 (an over 700% increase), while 41% of the New Zealand sharemarket valuation is now overseas-owned, compared to 19% in 1989. Around 7% of all New Zealand agriculturally productive land is also foreign-owned. CAFCA considers that the effect of such takeovers has generally been negative in terms of jobs and wages

 

 


 

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the point of the post regarding debt was to highlight that the countries that are in real trouble aren't there because of govts taking out loans to spend on those in society that need it, but rather taking money from those that can least afford it to help pay the debt by handing over millions to the mega wealthy.

Take Greece (a place i dearly love), they have very little welfare their, (even before the gfc) it wasn't the working people etc that created the debt. There's plenty of money in Greece its just that it is in the hands of a few. Now that just about every public service has either been closed or privatised, wages in some cases have been slashed by 50%, pensions have been slashed to unlivable levels and nearly all of their public owned assets have also been sold,  the majority of people have no money to spend so the economy will get worse and worse.

It isn't the wealthy that keep economies going, its the majority, people like us - buying all the day to day stuff.

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@crikey*mate wrote:

@donnashuggy wrote:

Resources, sorry for the one word answer 🙂


Yeah, but some are trying to scare the the people who make those resources useable and into a profitable commodity, away.

 

If that happens and we can't access and utilize our resources, they mean diddlysquat


And those who make the mega profits are trying to scare us into thinking that if we don't sell out to the cheapest bidder all the large corps will run away and leave us broke.   

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Icy -Sorry Am but I find no comfort in that.

Look at the trouble the US is in. Public services have been cut as seen in the debacle they had recently re their own debt-ceiling raising debacle. Cities like Detroit are in decay, others are in decline. States like California have been bankrupt.

 

 

Look at their debt %. 107% compared to Aust 33%

 

Australia isnt the US and never will be. Australia isn't Greece or Spain either... or the UK.. all of those countrie have devt levels far in excess of Australias.

 

 

 

New Zealands debt % is slighter higher (35%) than Australia's. -New Zealand's economy will prosper in 2014 as financial experts predict it will be a 'golden' year for the country... no doom and gloom, the country is ruined, our debt is too high there.

 

Really?

 

Why does that surprise you?  Or couldn't you accept that it is true? A prospering economy set to rocket in 2014 with a debt level of 35% that is.

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am - New Zealands debt % is slighter higher (35%) than Australia's. -New Zealand's economy will prosper in 2014 as financial experts predict it will be a 'golden' year for the country... no doom and gloom, the country is ruined, our debt is too high there.

 

 icy : Really?

 

From Wikipedia

 

New Zealand welcomes and encourages foreign investment without discrimination. The Overseas Investment Commission (OIC) must, however, consent to foreign investments that would control 25% or more of businesses or property worth more than NZ$50 million.

Restrictions and approval requirements also apply to certain investments in land and in the commercial fishing industry. In practice, OIC approval requirements have not hindered investment.

OIC consent is based on a national interest determination, but no performance requirements are attached to foreign direct investment after consent is given.

Full remittance of profits and capital is permitted through normal banking channels.

 

This free investment by foreign capital has also been criticised. Groups like Campaign Against Foreign Control of Aotearoa (CAFCA) consider that New Zealand's economy is substantially overseas-owned, noting that direct ownership of New Zealand companies by foreign parties increased from $9.7 billion in 1989 to $83 billion in 2007 (an over 700% increase), while 41% of the New Zealand sharemarket valuation is now overseas-owned, compared to 19% in 1989. Around 7% of all New Zealand agriculturally productive land is also foreign-owned. CAFCA considers that the effect of such takeovers has generally been negative in terms of jobs and wages

 

Your quoted paragraphs just proves that foreign investment is no barrier to a prosperous economy? The higher GDP a country has the higher the standard of living that country has.

 

It doesn't address any debt levels ratios either.

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Icy -Sorry Am but I find no comfort in that.

Look at the trouble the US is in. Public services have been cut as seen in the debacle they had recently re their own debt-ceiling raising debacle. Cities like Detroit are in decay, others are in decline. States like California have been bankrupt.

 

 

Look at their debt %. 107% compared to Aust 33%

 

Australia isnt the US and never will be. Australia isn't Greece or Spain either... or the UK.. all of those countrie have devt levels far in excess of Australias.

 

 

 

New Zealands debt % is slighter higher (35%) than Australia's. -New Zealand's economy will prosper in 2014 as financial experts predict it will be a 'golden' year for the country... no doom and gloom, the country is ruined, our debt is too high there.

 

Really?

 

Why does that surprise you?  Or couldn't you accept that it is true?


What?

 

The "really ?" is for - do you really think nobody in NZ is concerned about the amount of foreign interests in their holdings and the amount of their foreign debt.

 

 

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