Australia's Enemies At Home And Abroad

Those individuals currently gloating over Tony Abbott’s discomfort over the fallout from the Indonesian phone-tapping revelations may come to regret using national security as a political plaything to undermine a new conservative prime minister.

 

The phone-tapping controversy has been seized upon by Abbott’s political enemies, in part as payback, but mainly and in a totally irresponsible way, because it has the potential to derail a central Abbott election pledge — that of stopping the flow of illegal boat people.

 

If Abbott fails in this commitment, his re-election chances will be seriously diminished.

 

Abbott’s opponents are savouring the embarrassment, the discomfort and the unfolding repercussions from a security decision that was ironically made under Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.

 

The consequences of the Edward Snowden betrayal and subsequent airing of the leaked material on the ABC and the UK’s Guardian online newspaper go beyond political discomfort.

They will potentially hit Australia’s live meat exports, will do irreparable harm to Australia’s relationship with Indonesia, and may in the long-term assist the activities of would-be terrorists.

 

Prime Minister Abbott has so far correctly chosen not to discuss whether the order to tap the phones of high-level people in Indonesia after the 2009 bombings of the J.W. Marriott and the Ritz-Carlton hotels was warranted or was an instance of overreach by the then Rudd Labor government.

 

It would have been easy but enormously dangerous for Abbott to politicise the issue.

 

Yet his opponents have done just that, with contradictory suggestions of assistance and co-operation, including enlisting Mr Rudd to assist, all laden with the message that Labor would have handled the whole affair so much better.

 

In truth there is probably nothing Mr Abbott could have done to stop the fall-out from the episode, including offering a public apology to President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, or making a promise that it would never happen again.

 

The Indonesian ruling elite are justifiably angry about the revelations of phone-tapping private personal phone calls of the President, but are also adept at using such an incident for their own internal political issues — a bit of anti-Australian indignation does no harm to a politician’s standing in Jakarta.

 

Nevertheless, the security phone-tapping spat between Australia and Indonesia has one potential unintended upside for Tony Abbott and his political opponents — it is helping to fast-track his prime ministerial skill set.

The episode will also reveal whether Mr Abbott has the capacity to grow into a job in which he has never had any actual previous experience.

 

Abbott’s skills as an “oppositionist” and his single-minded determination and discipline are now widely acknowledged, even by his opponents in the Labor Party; but they are an entirely different set of political skills from that of being prime minister.

No amount of experience as a minister or opposition leader can prepare someone for the loneliness of responsibilities and decision-making as a leader of a nation.

 

The phone-tapping fallout shows that things do not go to a planned script; there are always unexpected crises and events that derail political strategies.

 

Mistakes and unintended consequences are always sheeted home to the person at the top.

 

In the early period of the Hawke Labor government, Bob Hawke, who was a good prime minister, was revealed to have hidden from the Australian public a decision to allow the United States to test MX missiles in the Tasman Sea, off the coast of Tasmania.

As with the current fracas with Indonesia, the original decision to permit the missile tests had been made by the previous Fraser Coalition government, but had been honoured in secret by Prime Minister Hawke and his Cabinet.

And again, when the MX missile story broke, the Left (then largely focused on all things nuclear) savaged the Hawke government.

The anti-nuclear movement was then huge — protests in the streets against the American nuclear tests pulled in more than 250,000 people, according to reports at the time.

And, at the 1984 election, the movement had enough momentum to secure Senate seats before the hardline Trotskyite Socialist Left took over and the entire anti-nuclear movement began to implode.

 

In the end, Hawke folded and successfully convinced the United States (which was already worried by New Zealand’s ban on nuclear ships) to abandon the tests.

 

Today, the same radical left mentality of the early 1980s, that despises the West and its values, has turned mainstream and been institutionalised inside organisations such as the ABC, the universities, the Greens and sections of the ALP.

 

It is most likely that Abbott will recover from the first real test of his leadership, and possibly emerge stronger for the crash course he is currently undergoing in being a prime minister.

 

But when he does, he will have a much clearer idea about where Australia’s enemies lie.

 

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I love a clear-thinking Journo...

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But the haties do.
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To assume that anyone who is an enemy of the Government  - i.e. opposes their policies- must also be an enemy of Australia is a very dangerous way of thinking. It is in fact an argument for a one party state.

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icy froth wrote

 

"Who cares what the journos name is?

The article is balanced view looking at both sides of the argument without the venom and spite I've seen in other articles."

 

 

.Peter Westmore is national president of the National Civic Council. and IMO the (phantom) national correspondent

who in their mission statement (about us) concede that



The National Civic Council (NCC) is an organisation which seeks to shape public

policy on cultural, family, social, political, economic and international issues of concern to Australia

 

I wondered how an organization that seeks to shape policy and advertises same could be considered a "balanced"

 

source of factual content???

 

 

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@lakeland27 wrote:

Abbott confessed he was sick of the NCC criticising unwelcome social and political trends from the sidelines. He wanted to change society by working from within. This meant sharing the fears and concerns of the "common herd". It was crucial to "make the compromises that life requires, be wrong, get blood on one's hands - but at least be in it".

For "vigorous, self-starting people" such as himself, the real issue was to secure a direct parliamentary presence. NCC people needed to "coalesce around leading individuals in the major parties".

 

But which of the major parties was the more suitable?

 

Labor's previous 30 years of hostility to Santamaria weighed against it but Abbott wrote, "our roots and the origins of our political culture are there". But if the ALP was not "dominated" by Santamaria-style ideas, it would succumb to "the grip of the Left or of soulless pragmatists". This was intolerable.

 

However, the Liberal Party was just as problematic. It was "without soul, direction or inspiring leadership", while its members were divided between "surviving trendies and the more or less simple-minded advocates of the free market".

 

The Liberal Party's mixture of "hand-wringing indecision or inappropriate economic Ramboism and perhaps their lack of political professionalism" struck Abbott as a fatal combination.

The choice on offer was bleak. "To join either existing party involves holding one's nose," he wrote. Smiley LOL


The choice on offer was bleak. "To join either existing party involves holding one's nose"

 

I'd like to reword that quote to suit the quandary the Australian voter finds him/herself in at election time if I may, Lakey.

 

The choice on offer IS bleak. "To VOTE for either existing party involves holding one's nose,"

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Associated organisations:

  • The Australian Family Association (www.family.org.au), with a particular focus on all forms of public policy affecting the family, and
  • The Thomas More Centre, focusing on bio-ethical issues and formation of young people

 

the tyke link... praise the lord.....onya Tonzer

 

http://tmc.org.au/

 

The Thomas More Centre is an Australian organisation of Catholic youth which organises programs and activities designed to:
  • deepen the knowledge and strengthen the practice of Catholic youth in their faith;
  • study political, economic, cultural, bioethical and social issues in accordance with Church teaching ;
  • assemble and train young Catholic leaders to defend the faith and to challenge the prevailing philosophies of utilitarianism, subjectivism, materialism, libertarianism and nihilism, which threaten it.
  • presently this is largely achieved through our training program, Young Political Activist Training (see www.ypat.org.au) and out publications, the ‘Thomas More Centre Bulletin’ and ‘iFaith’.

 

 

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Family_Association

 

Beliefs

According to its stated objectives, the AFA aims "to cultivate within society an appreciation that the integrity and wellbeing of the family is essential to the stability, morale, security and prosperity of the Australian nation".

 

It defines a family as being "composed of father, mother and children". It also lobbies on issues related to its central purpose, such as the definition of marriage, abortion, media standards and classification, cloning, pornography and illicit drug use.

 

balanced ???? remind me never to get on a see saw with you Icyfroth

 

 

 

 

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Balance this

 

Controversy and criticism

The organisation has been criticised for protesting against films they have not even viewed.[1]

 

At an anti same-sex marriage rally the AFA co-organised, guest speakers stated gay marriage should be "laughed at and ridiculed" and incorrectly associated gay marriage with paedophilia.

 

 

Mental health psychologist Paul Martin said such comments would be psychologically damaging to young gay people,

 

stating "the last thing they need to hear are these kinds of offensive comments from people who purport to represent 'family values'."[2]

 

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Predictable responses. I guess balance is a bit skewed for the one-eyed

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@icyfroth wrote:

Predictable responses. I guess balance is a bit skewed for the one-eyed


It always will be in this Country while people who think the values of the West are the only ones acceptable in Australia exist....

that attitiude makes all else and everyone else (including Indigenous Australians) other than what they are, undesirable in Australia.

What is undesirable is that kind of thinking.

Sad that some don't even see what and who is missing.....................or don't want to ?

 

 

 

 

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I am not gloating; I am worried and I am deeply ashamed of what is happening to this country in only 3 months of this government.  Australia was considered to be fair and tolerant country, but it is now seen as nasty and arrogant. 

When in opposition the LNP took any opportunity to talk Australia down in every respect.  Now in power they get on destroying every important international relationship. 

Just because my concerns about the LNP are proving more than  justified does not mean I am happy about it.

 

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

I am not gloating; I am worried and I am deeply ashamed of what is happening to this country in only 3 months of this government.  Australia was considered to be fair and tolerant country, but it is now seen as nasty and arrogant. 

When in opposition the LNP took any opportunity to talk Australia down in every respect.  Now in power they get on destroying every important international relationship. 

Just because my concerns about the LNP are proving more than  justified does not mean I am happy about it.

  

 


Do your feelings of shame extend to this sort of language from the left, Nova?:

 

"SO Joy Burch, the Education minister of the ACT, publishes a tweet describing her federal counterpart Christopher Pyne as a c**t - and gets away with it."

 

tsk tsk and from the Education minister of ACT, too.

 

further:

 

"We all make mistakes. But imagine if the roles were reversed. Imagine if Pyne had used the most obscene word in the English language, describing an intimate portion of the female anatomy, in reference to Burch.

 

He would be crucified. Twitter would be ablaze! The destroy-the-jointers would be apoplectic. The entire Abbott government would be implicated.

 

“If I had done that, before my head hit the pillow [Thursday night] I would have resigned or been sacked,” Pyne says.

 

“If it was me saying such a thing, the howls from the left would be cacophonous.”

 

But there has been barely a peep against Burch, who also happens to be the ACT’s Minister for Women. Moving right along. No double standards here.

 

That’s the Left for you, hysterical overreaction when it suits them, benign tolerance when it doesn’t.

 

If you’re on their side, anything goes. If you’re a conservative, a minefield of ‘isms lie in wait - sooner or later you will be accused of sexism, racism, elitism, homophobia and misogyny.

 

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