on 15-02-2014 10:06 PM
I was looking for just one, but got the information of all our Prime Ministers.
http://primeministers.naa.gov.au/primeministers/
Here one can read all about them and what they did or did not do for the country. Very interesting for just general information. It will keep me busy for a few days.
Erica
on 16-02-2014 03:05 PM
@boris1gary wrote:socialist, lakeland, socialist - there has never been a Communist country , society - unless we are talking pre as in primitive communism.
Communist Parties - yes, Communist Leaders - yes, Communist society - not yet.
Your optimism seems eerily familiar.
@boris1gary wrote:Free speech, in MHO is a myth. All countries are worth living in, alway's better than being dead, don't you think.
Have you ever considered what would motivate someone to self-immolate? Or risk their own lives and the lives of their children by fleeing a country?
on 16-02-2014 03:06 PM
on 16-02-2014 03:24 PM
@boris1gary wrote:
and that's all from me on this thread, not in holiday mood.
There is nothing wrong with being 'well travelled'. Ask Monman.
May I recommend an exciting destination?
on 16-02-2014 03:25 PM
@amber-eyed-girl wrote:
Well, all quite busy here since I last dropped in 🙂
Tourist or invite. Bit of both in a way. I had the opportunity to go, with someone, so I went. It did not bother me to hand over papers etc. My trip wasn't from China, that sounds an adventure in itself.
If it is a requirement, and you want to proceed, then you do it.
Limited mobility in terms of where one could go, guided everywhere...well, you may have had a different experience. Treated politely but firmly.
Getting there is not as difficult as it used to be, they are letting in a few more tourists I believe?
Even American journalists. Openly, invited. Saw an article recently from an American paper.
amber, The train trip there was a wonderful but hilarious adventure (because of the delegation leader, an Aussie) but the trip back by train was a nightmare - we had to get on the Chinese section at the border because the DPRK section wasn't going any further. I swear whoever designed that train (Chinese section) was some kind of torturer- seats upright, like concrete and air conditioned so cold I thought i would freeze to death. At least I could smoke and it did have a restaurant carriage.
on 16-02-2014 03:35 PM
Someone once commented to me that the only places in which you will ever find true communism are a convent, a monastery or a beehive.
Of course there have also been many alternative lifestyle communes, but human nature being what it i, sin the end, these invariably collapse in disillusionment - not with the ideal itself, but because it gets hijcked by the more assertive members who eventually take more and more power into their own hands..
on 16-02-2014 03:40 PM
on 16-02-2014 03:47 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:Someone once commented to me that the only places in which you will ever find true communism are a convent, a monastery or a beehive.
Of course there have also been many alternative lifestyle communes, but human nature being what it i, sin the end, these invariably collapse in disillusionment - not with the ideal itself, but because it gets hijcked by the more assertive members who eventually take more and more power into their own hands..
ele, there has only been socialist countries, as for "human nature" that's a different thread altogether - if we are to believe, as some assert - that human's by our very nature are greedy or power hungry or any of the other not so decent traits - then we are doomed. I am a little more optimistic - most of the time.
on 16-02-2014 03:53 PM
The animated movie Ants is a brilliant portrayal of that.
on 16-02-2014 05:05 PM
A bugs life is closer to the truth. we all know that insects work together for a common good, in a bugs life the ants manage to scare off standover grasshoppers with the help of circus bugs. and the message is ? (i'm actually asking, it eluded me)
on 16-02-2014 05:45 PM
ele, there has only been socialist countries
ahhhh.....you may have missed a recent discussion here where it was established that the Eastern Bloc had nothing to do with Socialism. In fact, Socialism does work. Just look at Finland, Sweden or Canada.