on 20-12-2014 01:41 AM
Bail ! Be Very Sure that it is given Deservedly !
So many years have passed since I have posted but in light of recent events I feel that I need to. The Madman that took Hostages etc should have not been out with the rest of us to start with if the Bail Laws were observed in the way that ordinary people would believe that they would be.
Firstly, In relation to the Martin Place Seige Nutter, This man orcherstrated sending vile messages to our War Widows ! ( In my opinion this sort of thing should be treated as Treason with Life in Gaol as the penalty)
He has also been involved in Accessory to Murder and Multiple Sexual Abuse Allegations .
As I see it Magistrates thought better that he was out with US than inside where he obviously belonged. (Live with that to those that let him out with us )
I firmly believe that this person was a Radical and not representative of normal peaceloving Muslims that are living with us and I am pleased to see the efforts that the Muslim Community has made to disassociate from this Lunatic and his beliefs and to be involved in the Vigils at Martin Place since the Seige.
It would be so easy for us to lash out at other Innocents because of a Madman but in the end that is not the right thing to do.
Like Everyone I am concerned about the radicallisation of some young Muslims but Hope / Want that the majority sway the minority to intergrate and not listen to overseas propoganda.
We lost Two Heros, Thank God we lost no more !
on 20-12-2014 08:30 AM
The granting of bail has very little to do with judges or magistrates.
It has everything to do with the law, which they are adhering to.
Your anger should be directed to the lawmakers instead.
on 20-12-2014 08:33 AM
@aps1080 wrote:
channy
We all wish that but the huggie fluffies do gooder lefties wouldn't allow it.
He has his "human rights: you know, bugger everyone he offends or hurts as long as "his" "human rights" are looked after.
If you are not a "do gooder", Aps, are you a "do badder"?
I know which I would rather be.
20-12-2014 08:35 AM - edited 20-12-2014 08:37 AM
No.
It is when the whole lot are put together.
And like certain people I know who really were goodie two shoes.
As far as Iam concerned, he lost his right to his human rights and was terminated, as should be.
on 20-12-2014 08:39 AM
Last I read, changes have already been made to bail laws?
No one has a crystal ball, who could predict this?
on 20-12-2014 08:52 AM
@aps1080 wrote:
channy
We all wish that but the huggie fluffies do gooder lefties wouldn't allow it.
He has his "human rights: you know, bugger everyone he offends or hurts as long as "his" "human rights" are looked after.
Actually, allowing parole is about none of the above; it is about helping to keep prison population under control. If they have a chance to get out early then they are less likely to create problems. The problem with Adrian Ernest Bayley case (Jill Meagher murder) was that he was in a pub fight, and when he came in front of the judge he had no previous for that offence; the judge was not given info about him being on parole for rapes. It was a break down in the system communication but nothing to do with any huggies fluffies.
And please, do not bring this left/right divide into every post. I know number of 'died in the wool' LNP voters who have compassion for people, and believe in human rights.
on 20-12-2014 08:59 AM
on 20-12-2014 09:01 AM
Welcome back Dave. I agree with you by the way.
on 20-12-2014 09:52 AM
I agree too Davo, there's gotta be something seriously wrong with our justice system that a man who's committed so many serious offences can be walking around our streets, no matter what religion or race he is
and welcome back too BTW
on 20-12-2014 10:21 AM
@softail-joanie wrote:My bail was over 10,000 dollars i think. Last time I was arrested. Made the bond over 1,000 dollars, and I never got that back after the case was dismissed without trial. They rob people in no shortage of ways, take homes away, raids are only a free for all to cops to take what they want and destroy the rest, they steal income (taxes) ransome their prisoners, "Bond" and on top of all that try to steal through fines and court costs. They beat, rape, molest, abuse, then charge you for it. They even have a racket for vehicles, Steal "impound" and ransome them back, or sell them at police auction.
Is there any doubt who the real criminals are?
Out of interest what were you arrested for?
on 20-12-2014 10:37 AM
thank goodness you came back after all these years to enlighten us of the problems with our bail system!!!!