Banging on and on about rights.......

[poddster]

......under what "right" are people paid to exist without doing anything for their payment.?

Is it just because they exist?

[colic2bullsgirlore]

my good ole mate Baggy came here from Scotland in 1961 on a beat up old cruise ship that we saw a display of at the

maritime Museum. Known him since 68......only time i thought I was ever gunna see him cry....only it was a drought or he

would have... he's tight that baggy 

http://waves.anmm.gov.au/Immigration-Stories/Immigration-history.aspx

ince the First Fleet dropped anchor in 1788, close to 10 million settlers have moved from across the world to start a new life in Australia.

They have arrived in waves, encouraged by developments like the 1850s gold rushes, or to escape adverse conditions at home such as the Industrial Revolution’s social upheavals in 19th-century Britain, the two world wars and the aftermath of the Vietnam War in the 1970s.

Collectively these migrants have helped shape a unique British-based and now multicultural society on the perimeter of Asia.

[gleee58]

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@debra9275 wrote:

it would've been a hard thing to do- start out in a new country and I feel compassion for those who've had to leave a war torn country from way back then  and till this day- even if tax payers had to fund it

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It certainly would. At least did not have to stay in refugee camps for decades waiting.  

[poddster]

J you and a lot of you are missing the salient point. immigrants who have arrived using correct procedures can be integrated into the community in a very short time. Those who try to force their way in have to be locked up and are a non productive burden on taxpayers.

Golden years J;

I wouldn't even wish those "Golden years" on you.

May I suggest some research on those 'Golden Years'?

[myoclon1cjerk]

A large number of those that came here were from the U.K. etc ergo economic refugees.

[gleee58]

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@poddster wrote:

J you and a lot of you are missing the salient point. immigrants who have arrived using correct procedures can be integrated into the community in a very short time. Those who try to force their way in have to be locked up and are a non productive burden on taxpayers.

Golden years J;

I wouldn't even wish those "Golden years" on you.

May I suggest some research on those 'Golden Years'?

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Not always and not exclusively.  Plenty of "boat people" have "integrated into the community and made valuable contributions in a relatively short time.  Some who arrived via an orderly process struggled and returned to their homeland or stayed and continue to struggle.

[poddster]

I would venture to say that those successful 'Boat people' were well off in the first place, they must have been to pay for their illegal entry.  They most likely were not seekers of asylum but opportunists seeking to make a good profit.

Being well off they could have applied for immigration but did not, wonder why that is?

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@poddster wrote:

I would venture to say that those successful 'Boat people' were well off in the first place, they must have been to pay for their illegal entry.  They most likely were not seekers of asylum but opportunists seeking to make a good profit.

Being well off they could have applied for immigration but did not, wonder why that is?

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It's a carch 22 isn't it. If you arrive with nothing you are not a real refugee, you are just looking for a handout, If you arrive with money you are not a real refugee only an opportunist. Damned if you do and damned if you dont.

[gleee58]

It's a catch 22 and it's more myth than fact.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@gleee58 wrote:

It's a catch 22 and it's more myth than fact.

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Poddy seems to think it's a fact.

[myoclon1cjerk]

Why would you assume they were well off? You might be right if it cost them half a million to get here.
On the difference between now and then,hostilities were over when the great influx of migrants arrived here,so they could process people in an orderly way.Those who try to get here from Afghanistan and Iraq are doing so while hostilities continue.