on โ14-11-2013 10:34 PM
Back in the days when Moses was born, mothers gave birth and then the newborn was taken to the nursery to stay. (in most cases). Family and partners etc got to peek through a glass window when they came to visit. I'm not sure though if the mum got to be with the baby 24/7 or not, but it is my understanding they only saw the baby at feeding and changing time. (happy to be corrected if I am wrong)
Now fast forward to now, where it is deemed absolutely imperative that a mother "bond" with her newborn in the first few days/weeks following birth. In most cases, Mum and baby stay in the same room 24/7 kind of thing.
So now I'm wondering of this new generation of babies who have had the benefit of this bonding are any better emotionally than those from a bygone era? Are they more stable as adults than previous generations? Were kids from "back then" loved any less than their modern counterparts?
How exactly do the different generations compare considering the different ideologies in their birth and "bonding" experiences in those first few weeks of life?
on โ14-11-2013 11:25 PM
@my*mum wrote:
@kennedia_nigricans wrote:the bonding thingy is deemed very important and actually the first minutes/seconds are VERY important. that is why the baby nowadays is given IMMEDIATELY to the mother after birth (or should be if possible).
so a baby who is born under general anaesthetic c - section, and thus not given that immediate bonding, is somehow disadvantaged?
Long term?
How?
For a few days my middle son was in special care unit.I wasn't well myself,though able to get as far as the toilet....they wouldn't even wheel me up to see him..to see for myself how he was.To touch him.To know and see for myself and for him to know I was there for him.I hated it then and I still hate it now (and I don't use the word hate lightly) .It is important.
on โ14-11-2013 11:27 PM
on โ14-11-2013 11:28 PM
I think the bonding thing IMMEDIATELY at birth is a little overrated. A bit like the breastfeeding thing. Both theories are heing lobbied too hard IMO.
Horse for courses really.
on โ14-11-2013 11:31 PM
@kennedia_nigricans wrote:you are wrong. i can't be bothered to google it for you but it was known more than 5 years ago that it DOES matter (the first few seconds).
Pardon? Google said, so it's true?
Welcome to the new world.
โ14-11-2013 11:34 PM - edited โ14-11-2013 11:36 PM
OP, this is a follow on from a the thread about assylum seeker parents being kept/limited (? Father totally not permitted to see his ill hospitlised new born) from their New born .Their new born baby is being kept in hospital as the baby is weak and has breathing problems.
If so..it is So not the same as missing out on the first skin contact ...
Their child is fighting to get strong enough to live.
on โ14-11-2013 11:35 PM
on โ14-11-2013 11:35 PM
I've never really given it much thought so had a look what the experts had to say:
For some parents, this takes place within the first few days โ or even minutes โ of birth. For others, it may take a little longer. In the past, researchers who studied the process thought it was crucial to spend a lot of time with your newborn during his first few days to seal the bond right away.
But now we know that bonding can take place over time. Parents who are separated from their babies soon after delivery for medical reasons or who adopt their children when they're several weeks or months old also develop enormously close, loving relationships.
What if I dont bond straight away?
Breathe easy. Parent-baby bonding is complicated and often takes time to gel. As long as you take care of your baby's basic needs and cuddle with her regularly, she won't suffer if you don't feel a strong bond at first sight.
"There's so much discussion about bonding with a new baby that mothers often feel guilty if they don't feel some incredible attachment to their new baby immediately," says Edward Christophersen, a pediatric psychologist in Kansas City, Missouri. "But bonding is truly an individual experience, and it's just as reasonable to expect the bond to develop over a period of time as it is for it to develop instantaneously."
http://www.babycenter.com/baby-bonding
I was too exhausted to 'bond'.
on โ14-11-2013 11:37 PM
I was bonded with mine while they were still in the womb.
on โ14-11-2013 11:38 PM
I think the research is based on brain studies showing the primal euphoria that mothers (and fathers) feel immediately after the birth.
But much of the research is muddy because brain patterns would naturally go haywire after going through/witnessing something like a birth. Most critics of the bond-at-birth theory suggest spikes on a brain scan graph do not = bonding.
on โ14-11-2013 11:40 PM