Bow ripped off of Asylum boat by customs ship

[red_wolfey]

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bow-ripped-off-asylum-boat-as-customs-attempte...

I guess towing the boats back is another LNP  fail when the Asylum vessel sank and the 40 people had to be recued.

Government  unable to give any information, saying it was a matter  for Operation Sovereign Borders.......waa waa waaaa!

[izabsmiling]

There was suggestion of bribes to help stop boats wasn't there? 

Who is paying who for what?

More and more Fake Visa's could help 'Stop The Boats' ....

Icy, what do you consider being Australian to mean.(referring to your unAustralian remark ...and the last sentence of your last post)

is it all of these ?

At the citizenship ceremony, you pledge that you share Australia's democratic beliefs and that you respect the rights and liberties of the people of Australia.

Our democratic beliefs:

• Parliamentary democracy
• The rule of law
• Living peacefully
• Respect for all individuals regardless of background
• Compassion for those in need

Our freedoms:

• Freedom of speech and freedom of expression
• Freedom of association
• Freedom of religion and secular government

Our equalities:

• Equality in Australia
• Equality of men and women
• Equality of opportunity

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/should_become/

[**meep**]

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@just_me_karen wrote:
Our PM is anti Australian, worst diplomat in history.

Here's Indonesia's president on twitter...

@SBYudhoyono: I also regret the statement of Australian Prime Minister that belittled this tapping matter on Indonesia, without any remorse. *SBY*

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In a 2004 interview, retiring Indonesian intelligence chief General Abdullah Mahmud Hendropriyono said his agency tapped Australian civil and military communications and politicians' phone calls.

 General Hendropriyono said he presumed Australia did the same thing to Indonesia. "She is silly if she doesn't do that, you know"

[cherry*135]

One would expect all Australians new & old to follow the law. Supporting people smugglers or being one, which is an illegal activity is not following the rule of law.

At the citizenship ceremony, you pledge that you share Australia's democratic beliefs and that you respect the rights and liberties of the people of Australia.

Our democratic beliefs:

• Parliamentary democracy
• The rule of law
• Living peacefully
• Respect for all individuals regardless of background
• Compassion for those in need

Our freedoms:

• Freedom of speech and freedom of expression
• Freedom of association
• Freedom of religion and secular government

Our equalities:

• Equality in Australia
• Equality of men and women
• Equality of opportunity

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/should_become/

[izabsmiling]

Am3, discussion of people smugglers (within and consisdering Australia's democratic beliefs and that you respect the rights and liberties of the people of Australia)   is not against any rule of Law 

[the_hawk*]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@donnashuggy wrote:

So you don't believe Tony then icy? He said we have a very good relationship with Indonesia, not another porkie by our PM?

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I think he's deluding himself in thinking the Indons will help him against the people smugglers.

To much silver crossing palms to put a stop to that little money-spinner.

Aussies are suckers - love you longtime. Right.

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+1

I think thats the problem, the people smugglers put too much into the Indo economy and their system is even more corrupt than ours.

[the_hawk*]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

There was suggestion of bribes to help stop boats wasn't there? 

Who is paying who for what?

More and more Fake Visa's could help 'Stop The Boats' ....

Icy, what do you consider being Australian to mean.(referring to your unAustralian remark ...and the last sentence of your last post)

is it all of these ?

At the citizenship ceremony, you pledge that you share Australia's democratic beliefs and that you respect the rights and liberties of the people of Australia.

Our democratic beliefs:

• Parliamentary democracy
• The rule of law
• Living peacefully
• Respect for all individuals regardless of background
• Compassion for those in need

Our freedoms:

• Freedom of speech and freedom of expression
• Freedom of association
• Freedom of religion and secular government

Our equalities:

• Equality in Australia
• Equality of men and women
• Equality of opportunity

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/should_become/

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Sadly Australia is an epic fail on many of those basic principals now

[donnashuggy]

No, the smugglers are just paying out corrupt officials.

[the_hawk*]

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@donnashuggy wrote:

No, the smugglers are just paying out corrupt officials.

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for that level of coruption it has to come from the top down or it would be stopped.

[izabsmiling]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@donnashuggy wrote:

So you don't believe Tony then icy? He said we have a very good relationship with Indonesia, not another porkie by our PM?

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I think he's deluding himself in thinking the Indons will help him against the people smugglers.

To much silver crossing palms to put a stop to that little money-spinner.

Aussies are suckers - love you longtime. Right.

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Unfortunately it wasn't just himself he fooled.

we will reap what he sowed.

[icyfroth]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@donnashuggy wrote:

So you don't believe Tony then icy? He said we have a very good relationship with Indonesia, not another porkie by our PM?

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I think he's deluding himself in thinking the Indons will help him against the people smugglers.

To much silver crossing palms to put a stop to that little money-spinner.

Aussies are suckers - love you longtime. Right.

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Unfortunately it wasn't just himself he fooled.

we will reap what he sowed.

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As he is reaping what the previous government sowed