on โ13-02-2015 01:02 PM
If the horrific murder of two Australians is carried out then we should boycott Bali and all things Indonesian.
We gave over a $billion dollars to this country after the tsunami, we prop then up with foreign aid and they spit in our faces.
They have ignored all diplomatic attempts to mitigate their sentences and Watta a Joko has now signed the order to send them to the "killing Island" wouldn't want to kill them on Bali now would they, might upset the tourism business.
I'm appalled and disgusted, scared and frightened for these men and heartsick for their families.
โ22-02-2015 09:48 PM - edited โ22-02-2015 09:51 PM
@lyndal1838 wrote:
@gleee58 wrote:
@am*3 wrote:Angry Indonesians comparing Abbott to Shylock. Why didn't he just leave the communicating with Indonesia to Julie Bishop?
Or does he [Abbott} speak to Aussies saying what he thinks they want to hear and did not anticipate the Indonesians hearing his domestic speech?
What part do you think that the Indonesian Ambassador and other Embassy officials play in making sure that everything said in Australia is faithfully relayed to the powers that be in Indonesia?
You can be sure the Indonesian government knows as much as we do.
I think you misunderstood glees post.
โ22-02-2015 09:49 PM - edited โ22-02-2015 09:51 PM
@azureline** wrote:
Lol auto correct
Cocaine saga
You had me wondering there, about a Brisbane cochineal saga![]()
Drug scandal: Gold Coast Titans Greg Bird, Dave Taylor and Kalifa Faifai Loa stood down - on front page online SMH
on โ22-02-2015 10:41 PM
@am*3 wrote:
@lyndal1838 wrote:
@gleee58 wrote:
@am*3 wrote:Angry Indonesians comparing Abbott to Shylock. Why didn't he just leave the communicating with Indonesia to Julie Bishop?
Or does he [Abbott} speak to Aussies saying what he thinks they want to hear and did not anticipate the Indonesians hearing his domestic speech?
What part do you think that the Indonesian Ambassador and other Embassy officials play in making sure that everything said in Australia is faithfully relayed to the powers that be in Indonesia?
You can be sure the Indonesian government knows as much as we do.
I think you misunderstood glees post.
How have I misunderstood? I am quite happy to stand corrected but I can't think of any meaning other than that Tony says things to Australians/in Australia but does not anticipate Indonesia knowing about it?
Politicians may be stupid but not that stupid.
on โ23-02-2015 01:21 AM
@lyndal1838 wrote:
@gleee58 wrote:
@am*3 wrote:Angry Indonesians comparing Abbott to Shylock. Why didn't he just leave the communicating with Indonesia to Julie Bishop?
Or does he speak to Aussies saying what he thinks they want to hear and did not anticipate the Indonesians hearing his domestic speech?
What part do you think that the Indonesian Ambassador and other Embassy officials play in making sure that everything said in Australia is faithfully relayed to the powers that be in Indonesia?
You can be sure the Indonesian government knows as much as we do.
I know that but I had to wonder if Abbott remembered that.
on โ23-02-2015 05:43 AM
i do think the Indos have brought this whole saga on themselves by dragging it out once the final visits from family occurred.
They play right into the media's hands, allowing it to get bigger than it should.
It seems some think the same in Indo as well.
Joko Widodo advisers want foreign executions done
Bali: Advisers to Indonesia's President Joko Widodo say he should get the executions of drug offenders
over and done with, as pressure builds from overseas.
on โ23-02-2015 10:44 AM
@azureline** wrote:
Lol auto correct
Cocaine saga
Lol........glad you corrected that.....the alternative was very .....well.......gross!
on โ23-02-2015 10:46 AM
There is nothing more Australia can do for these two men.
on โ23-02-2015 11:52 AM
@azureline** wrote:
Not sure where you are but we are seeing plenty about the cochineal saga in Brisbane
Not as much of an error as you think.
Ethanol-containing products such as mouthwash, perfumes, cold medicines, and food flavorings are easily available to children and may cause significant intoxication when ingested accidentally or with the intention to get โhigh.โ We describe the first reported case of clinically significant ethanol (EtOH) intoxication from vanilla extract ingestion.
on โ23-02-2015 05:13 PM
@vicr3000 wrote:
i do think the Indos have brought this whole saga on themselves by dragging it out once the final visits from family occurred.
They play right into the media's hands, allowing it to get bigger than it should.
It seems some think the same in Indo as well.
Joko Widodo advisers want foreign executions done
Bali: Advisers to Indonesia's President Joko Widodo say he should get the executions of drug offenders
over and done with, as pressure builds from overseas.
This is the most disgusting thing so far: "quick! kill them quickly because we are now seen as barbarians overseas".
Brazil have been even more vociferous in their condemnation of Watta Joke and his corrupt country, they have not accepted the Indonesian's Ambassador's credentials to Brazil.
Australia is not the only country who are outraged by Indonesia's stance on clemency or to even repatriate the prisoners back to their country of origin for jail terms.
I have said this over and over again: what he is doing is against the constitution of Indonesia and against human rights but nobody on here seems to get it, they are too busy trying to blame Abbott for his efforts and if he didn't pull out all stops the left would still whinge.
on โ23-02-2015 05:15 PM