on โ13-02-2015 01:02 PM
If the horrific murder of two Australians is carried out then we should boycott Bali and all things Indonesian.
We gave over a $billion dollars to this country after the tsunami, we prop then up with foreign aid and they spit in our faces.
They have ignored all diplomatic attempts to mitigate their sentences and Watta a Joko has now signed the order to send them to the "killing Island" wouldn't want to kill them on Bali now would they, might upset the tourism business.
I'm appalled and disgusted, scared and frightened for these men and heartsick for their families.
on โ25-02-2015 09:45 AM
@daydream**believer wrote:
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
@daydream**believer wrote:Theres a woman in the US set to be executed this week.
The the first woman put to death in Georgia since 1945.
She didnt even kill anyone.
She just talked her bf into killing her hubby.
Shes been on death row for 18yrs.
Wheres the outrage of this?
Is her bf getting the death penalty?
No, he testified against her so got a life sentence.
She refused to accept the stateโs offer of life with no parole for 25 years and insisted on her right to a jury trial. She was found guilty and sentenced to death.
Good on him for testifying against her.....she must of thought she would get away with it!
on โ25-02-2015 09:53 AM
i care more about this poor guy on death row in Saudi Arabia then i do about the two heroin smugglers.
This guy didnt try to smuggle drugs. He didnt even murder anyone.
All he did was renounce his Muslim faith and now he faces execution
on โ25-02-2015 10:19 AM
@daydream**believer wrote:i care more about this poor guy on death row in Saudi Arabia then i do about the two heroin smugglers.
This guy didnt try to smuggle drugs. He didnt even murder anyone.
All he did was renounce his Muslim faith and now he faces execution
I think we have already got that.
on โ25-02-2015 10:30 AM
@daydream**believer wrote:i care more about this poor guy on death row in Saudi Arabia then i do about the two heroin smugglers.
This guy didnt try to smuggle drugs. He didnt even murder anyone.
All he did was renounce his Muslim faith and now he faces execution
I would have to agree with you.
on โ25-02-2015 10:41 AM
@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:
@daydream**believer wrote:i care more about this poor guy on death row in Saudi Arabia then i do about the two heroin smugglers.
This guy didnt try to smuggle drugs. He didnt even murder anyone.
All he did was renounce his Muslim faith and now he faces execution
I would have to agree with you.
Yes as terrible as facing execution is for any person re the of circumstances this person finds themself in, it does not lessen the atrocity of state sanctioned murder for anyone imo.
If you are against the death penalty for this man thenwe can't pick and choose what crime is more deserving of it over another otherwise we could see it befalling anybody who does not toe the line of a ditatorship or a criminal regime.
That is why it is abhorrant under any circumstances. These two Australians have already spent years in a hell hole but managed to rise above it and to help others. When they are murdered that will end the thinking that jail time doen't assist in rehabilitation anywhere, is that what we want?
โ25-02-2015 11:00 AM - edited โ25-02-2015 11:01 AM
The only comment I have about the two men being sentenced to death is ... what a waste of their lives ....
Without giving any opinion about the outcomes or venturing into the politics of it (agreeing or disagreeing with their sentences), I note that the skills and talents they have demonstrated for the past ten years in the Bali jail should have been what they truly were capable of from the very beginning rather than making the choices they did for the money and subsequent shocking risks they took to get it.
One has earnt a degree (an aptitude he always had) and one is now a 'pastor'. Either way, their lives clearly could have been that of the unselfish educating and guidance of young minds in the world of law and order, fulfilling and satisfying.
How incredibly sad to not have recognised that in themselves to go the way they ultimately chose.
I feel so sorry for them and their families.
on โ25-02-2015 11:43 AM
Agree.
Not only these facing execution who have "found" a calling - but others in the drug trade system.
The intensity of thought, management of peoples' movements, investigative processes, leadership skills, and so on for an illegal outcome. What a waste of resourceful people.
Imagine if it had all been put to a legal "logistical" employment. Coles stock movement, Army supplies, even for pharmaceutical companies.
These types of people have to be "captured" when they are young - like, say, 14 years old. But unfortunately, these talents aren't discovered/recognized/utilized/encouraged by adults around them.
DEB
on โ25-02-2015 01:25 PM
I think the Indonesian Gov.
is sending a very clear picture to Australians
you are welcome to visit our country but when you are here do the right thing by us
Now there is not one person in Australia that does not know that
"if you are dealing drugs in our country you will be Executed "
How long has Indonesia put up with the outrageous behavour of many Australians on a Cheap holiday
and a quick fix .Many people just getting their rocks off at the expensive of the Indonesian people
Some may call it helping them out with the Australian tourist dollars .Others may call it exploitation .
on โ25-02-2015 01:26 PM
lloydslights that was not directed at you
just pushed reply
on โ26-02-2015 04:47 PM
PM Abbott has personally spoken to Watta Joke and he said they had a very congenial discussion and agreed that the two Australians are in a differnt class to the rest of the prisoners as to their good works and rehab whilst in prison. They have adid and helped many prisoners to cope.
Can anybody tell me why Indonsesia feel the need for jet fighters to escort condemned prisoners and why they feel the neccessity to overfly the killing island all day?