Boycott Bali

[idlewhile]

If the horrific murder of two Australians is carried out then we should boycott Bali and all things Indonesian.

We gave over a $billion dollars to this country after the tsunami, we prop then up with foreign aid and they spit in our faces.

They have  ignored all diplomatic attempts to mitigate their sentences and Watta a Joko has now signed the order to send them to the "killing Island" wouldn't want to kill them on Bali now would they, might upset the tourism business.

I'm appalled and disgusted, scared and frightened for these men and heartsick for their families.

[azureline**]

There needs to be a lot going on behind the scenes, to repair the damage done by our PM....................with his little blackmail speech.

[vicr3000]

Rubbish.

It blew over in a couple of days with a phone call from Bishop.

[idlewhile]

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@azureline** wrote:

There needs to be a lot going on behind the scenes, to repair the damage done by our PM....................with his little blackmail speech.

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I think the PM was right and well within his rights to remind Indonesia of just what a good friend does for another friend. One hand washes the other in world politics and we all know it.

When it comes down to saving 2 Australians citizens from state sanctioned murder, if it was me I would be very grateful for the PM's hard work.

Indonesia needs to be reminded that what they are doing is inhumane and unacceptable. There is a ground swell of Indo's now openly against the state murdering people, from little things big things grow and we saw the reign of SBY who refused to kill any more prisoners even though he was a pro murder president in the beginning.

No leader wants to be remembered for being a killer, a murderer of their own people and others.

[vicr3000]

The security situation, spying by Aus, not that it was secret but when done by the ABC which

was egg on face reporting had a far more damaging effect than one comment by the PM.

We don't just provide aid in disasters, we (with the US) have trained their anti terror groups

that have since been so effective. 4 x Hercules Aircraft provided for free to Indonesia which

is a multi million $ gift.

[polksaladallie]

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@azureline** wrote:

There needs to be a lot going on behind the scenes, to repair the damage done by our PM....................with his little blackmail speech.

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That appalling statement is a big part of the front bench unrest today.  He seems to be devoid of a diplomacy gene.  The rest of the government is simply scared that the next gaffe will cause more damage to our standing in the world..

[colic2bullsgirlore]

"I think the PM was right and well within his rights to remind Indonesia of just what a good friend does for another friend."

Do you remind your good friends how you expect  them to behave?... would love to be a fly on the wall during the

exchange...and after when your good friend relays  your expectations to other good friends...maybe you need a

friend"contract"... to get the deal set straight first up...saves all the misunderstanding

[idlewhile]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

There needs to be a lot going on behind the scenes, to repair the damage done by our PM....................with his little blackmail speech.

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That appalling statement is a big part of the front bench unrest today.  He seems to be devoid of a diplomacy gene.  The rest of the government is simply scared that the next gaffe will cause more damage to our standing in the world..

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Appalling statement??? he was doing what is expected of him, everything in his power to save 2 Australians citizens from the firing squad.

Your partisan comment on this thread, which is a very emotive issue, is the only appalling comment I see.

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@azureline** wrote:

There needs to be a lot going on behind the scenes, to repair the damage done by our PM....................with his little blackmail speech.

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   I agree.  I bet our PM was an embarassment to Aus yet again.

[idlewhile]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

There needs to be a lot going on behind the scenes, to repair the damage done by our PM....................with his little blackmail speech.

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That appalling statement is a big part of the front bench unrest today.  He seems to be devoid of a diplomacy gene.  The rest of the government is simply scared that the next gaffe will cause more damage to our standing in the world..

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off topic. Please try to keep to the very grave subject and not inject leftist bias for the Prime Minister into what is a very serious topic

[polksaladallie]

Oh, look, everyone else of note agrees with me.    How strange.     

Abbott was not doing what was expected of him, and Bishop has tried without success to undo the damage.  Indonesia is extremely angry.

How do you think that bodes for the two men?  You are obviously horrified at the coming deaths, and should be appalled at Abbott's language.

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop says Prime Minister Tony Abbott's comments linking Australia's tsunami aid with a clemency bid for the two Australians on death row in Bali were seen as unhelpful by the Indonesian government.

Ms Bishop confirmed she spoke with Indonesian Vice President Kalla after Mr Abbott's comments to stress the Prime Minister "did not intend" to link Australia's tsunami relief with the bid to spare the lives of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumar....

"It was widely thought that the Prime Minister linking the tsunami aid to the clemency bid was unhelpful last week. Was it?" asked the ABC's Michael Brissenden.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bali-nine-julie-bishop-concedes-tony-abbotts-t...

Angry Indonesians have compared Tony Abbott to Shylock, the moneylender in The Merchant of Venice who demanded a pound of flesh when his rival defaulted on a loan.

"Australians need a prime minister, not a Shylock and drug dealer's cousin," a banner said at a protest held on car-free Sunday at Jakarta's famous Hotel Indonesia roundabout.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-nine-executions-tony-abbott-compared-to-shylock-in-campaign-to-repa...

Indonesia says it won't respond to Prime Minister Tony Abbott's 'threats' which appeared to link Australian aid to the fate of the Bali Nine ringleaders facing execution.

Mr Abbott has made his strongest comments yet on the cases of Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan, reminding Indonesia it received $1 billion in Australian aid after the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami.

'We will be letting Indonesia know in absolutely unambiguous terms that we feel grievously let down,' he said.

'Let's not forget that a few years ago, when Indonesia was struck by the Indian Ocean tsunami, Australia sent a billion dollars worth of assistance, we sent a significant contingent of our armed forces to help in Indonesia with humanitarian relief, and Australians lost their lives in that campaign to help Indonesia.

'I would say to the Indonesian people and the government, we in Australia are always there to help you and we hope that you might reciprocate in this way at this time.'

Nine Australians died when their helicopter crashed while providing humanitarian aid after the Nias earthquake in Sumatra in 2005.

The comparison was not well received in Jakarta.

Indonesia's foreign affairs ministry spokesman Arrmanatha Nasir told reporters he hadn't studied Mr Abbott's comments, but understood he had made a link to 'the issue now in Indonesia'.

'But what I know is this, threats are not part of diplomatic language ... and from what I know, no one responds well to threats,' he said. -

See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2015/02/18/indonesia-calls-abbott-comments--threats-.html...